Re: Bake-off proposal (was Re: [CNET] Web services -- a 2001 thing?)

From: Dave Winer (
Date: Tue Jan 02 2001 - 10:34:07 PST

OK, I'll work with The Hong Brothers to get my canonical SOAP app on their
site. Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Baker" <>
To: "Dave Winer" <>
Cc: <>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Bake-off proposal (was Re: [CNET] Web services -- a 2001

> > Mark, why don't we have a bake-off?
> >
> > I'll specify an application that's well-suited to SOAP, and I'll
> > and document it and provide a client that runs in Radio, and I'll get
> > someone to port it to Python and post the results on
> > Of course it would be equally easy to
write a
> > client in Perl, or Java, or whatever.
> >
> > Then you'll implement the same application using nothing but HTTP. To
> > qualify your application will have to be documented and provide a sample
> > client written in a different language from the one you wrote the server
> >
> > Then we'll have a basis for discussion.
> >
> > What do you think?
> I'm not sure what that would achieve. Since RPC provides more control
> over the interface, it's always going to be easy to pick an app that
> works "best" (for varying definitions of "best", depending on the app)
> it rather than over a generic interface.
> How about we start with apps that people have already done, like those
> on XMethods (as Dan recommended)? You can pick.
> Also, the only language I've used in the past 4 years is Java (and the
> only development environment I have set up at the moment), so I'll
> have to use that at both ends. But feel free to watch the HTTP traffic
> to make sure I'm not doing anything tricky.
> MB

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