Re: one projection about the open source market

From: Justin Mason (
Date: Tue Feb 27 2001 - 06:55:13 PST

Robert Harley said:

> >[...] It's like coming home to find that all my furniture and even the
> >carpet has been stolen. The GNU utilities are so transcendently far
> >beyond the old proprietary versions that just typing simple commands is
> >an exercise in frustration for me.
> Now, now, it depends which ones. Compaq's C compiler compiles fast code
> fast. It beats gcc on most things and by quite a margin on some.
> Compaq's math libraries are so much better than the GNU ones that it's
> just not funny. S'pse I should fix that some day.

It's true -- each proprietary UNIX has its own plus-points where it beats
GNU stuff -- and it's usually the compiler, from what I hear. ;) (No
offence intended to the gcc team, of course.)

Anyway... having said that, I'm with Eirikur, in the main. I think it was
SRC who previously mentioned the traditional rsync(1) or rdist(1) of
/usr/local whenever a new Sun box arrived, and I agree wholeheartedly.

In a previous life, I was a sysadmin for a heterogenous network, dominated
mostly by Solaris and HP/UX boxen. I'd say about 90% of the setup time
spent on each machine was spent FTPing and building GNU tools, installing
them on a server, rigging up rdist scripts to distribute them across the
network, and fixing the boot scripts to use them.

The OS makers really need to recognise that, on the command-line, they
lose. Add a /usr/gnu/bin which I can install from the OS CD, and add to
my path, and I'm a happy hacker...

Aren't Sun recognising this, these days, though? I thought the
GNOME/Ximian/Nautilus deals were an indication of this?

(PS: regarding Compaq in particular, I've never had trouble with DEC or
Compaq hardware, and IMHO Tru64 is a very nice UNIX. Also they get big
props from me, simply due to the work going on with the iPaq...)


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