Re: [XML Bastard] XML Sucks! Fork You! No! Fork Yourself!

From: Stephen D. Williams (
Date: Thu Mar 08 2001 - 18:54:56 PST

Mark Day wrote:
> > > I think many involved in XML assume you'll use a nice editor to hide the
> > > syntax.
> > >
> >
> > That never worked for Lisp. The s-exp syntax was always supposed to be an
> > internal syntax; the top-level syntax never got fully implemented. Once
> > people realized it was forthcoming, they tried to build smarter
> > editors ---
> > and instead ended up with editors that knew a whole lot about parens.
> The Lisp experience also suggests that we'll wind up with a bunch of people
> who don't understand the whining about XML syntax because they really do
> grok it as is. Many years ago (yea, verily, before the Web) I joined a
> research group that worked in Scheme. Even though I already "knew" Scheme
> there was a 3-4 month period where it was hard work to read other people's
> code. Then one day it was... suddenly... all... easy. A strange experience,
> and it seems to be like learning to ride a bicycle: i.e. once acquired, you
> don't ever lose it again.
> --Mark

Just like reading g++ STL syntax/type error messages... They're
typically a couple K long and seemed impossible to read but not I can
glance at them and tell what's wrong.


Stephen D. Williams
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