From: Strata Rose Chalup (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Wed Apr 26 2000 - 08:23:33 PDT
Check out first item in the TBTF log today; <poof!> your data is gone!
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From: email@example.com (Keith Dawson) Subject: TBTF Log, weeks of 2000-04-16 Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org To: email@example.com
TBTF Log, weeks of 2000-04-16
These weeks' log entries: < http://tbtf.com/blog/2000-04-16.html > __________________________________________________________________________
A reader asked me whether, if he subscribed to TBTF and the TBTF Log, he would hear by email about all changes on the TBTF site. I'm not certain if this was true before, but it's a good idea, and so be it. __________________________________________________________________________
++ eGroups eats customer data, is unresponsive 10:59:51 am
eGroups has, apparently, killed off its Calendar function with no notice to users and no way for them to get their data back.
Leili Towfigh sent in this correspondence from the we have absolutely no regard for people's personal data wars. Since sending this email she has received a second breezy, content-free note from someone with a different name in eGroups customer support; but no explanation, no apology, and no restitution.
Is anyone associated with eGroups reading this item? I urge you to make this right. I'll post the news as soon as you let me know you've fixed this problem.
From: L Towfigh Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 1:05 AM To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Customer service complaint To eGroups:
I received a strangely blithe message today from someone called "Kristi" about how the eGroups personal calendar function is no longer available.
What is up with THAT?
Have you never heard of the not-so-complicated concept of WARNING your users that you are going to get rid of a function that stores their data? Data is very important - my CAT understands this very straightforward idea. Step into the 90s! Other online services I use such as hotmail, amazon, cdnow have the courtesy to inform me of any changes to their site that might in some way effect my data, so that I have time to retrieve the data. Your design folks decided it would be really cool to blow away my personal calendar and then send a chirpy, informationless message from "Kristi" that did not address my questions, told me simply that "the function is no longer available," and then thanked me, which added insult to injury. I lost important calendar entries with ZERO warning from you. Would you also do this to whole egroups with no warning? I cannot be sure what you'll do now that you have set an erratic, bizarre precedent.
I have been a vocal promoter of eGroups - UNTIL NOW. Your irresponsible handling of my data, however, is impetus for me to start de-promoting you. A fundatmental aspect of building online communities is a positive public image, that is spread by word of mouth. I will have no problems letting the MIT community know to stay away from your service, as you fail to grasp another rather fundamental aspect of online groupware: your users have to trust that you will take care of their data.
With annoyance and flames,
L. Towfigh ---------------------- Hello,
The personal calendar function is no longer available.
Thanks for using eGroups! For helpful hints please visit:
If you have any further questions please do not reply on this ticket number. Send another email to email@example.com to create a new ticket number.
Kristi eGroups Support Team
------- Original Message -------- From: L Towfigh To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Personal calendar has disappeared? Date: 04/03/00 06:41:05
Dear tech support folks --
I appear to be unable to access my personal space / calendar now that the changes to eGroups have been instituted. Where is my personal calendar? I belong to six groups and I want to be able to view the overlay version of the calendar, but cannot! I rely on this calendar function to store my information, so it is very important that I be able to access the information as soon as possible, like, today, so I know what appointments I have! I did not see any warnings that my personal space would be deleted or replaced, so what's the deal?
L. Towfigh ____________
++ Privacy invasion built into the Net's bones 10:29:44 am
This is very bad. Read the latest Privacy Forum  about the well-advanced plans of Predictive Networks . In short, this company -- and (apparently) others in the pipeline -- intends to capture 100% of users' clickstream data from ISPs and even backbone providers. Options for opting out of such a scheme may be anywhere from impractical to impossible -- as well as costly, because ISPs are expected to offer lower rates to users who don't object to having their every move in cyberspace snooped. Here is Privacy Forum moderator Lauren Weinstein's call to action. Speak up now. A good first step would be to join Weinstein's People for Internet Responsibility .
> We still have the chance to say that our personal information is > our own and that our Web browsing behavior is private. We may yet > be able to successfully assert that we won't be manipulated, > coerced, or otherwise "bribed" into allowing our Web activities to > (as "The Prisoner" put it) be "pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, > briefed, debriefed, or numbered!"
> The Internet and Web have tremendous commercial potential. But it > can be achieved ethically and without the use of obnoxious > technologies that are being shoved down our throats like feed for > animals destined for the dinner table. The firms who view the > Internet as little more than a "cash cow" are already placing the > software rings in our noses in an effort to see us made easier to > manipulate and control.
> The stink of the slaughterhouse may not be far away.
 http://www.vortex.com/privacy/priv.09.13  http://www.predictivenetworks.com?  http://www.pfir.org/ ___________________________________
++ A well anarchized telecom infrastructure 2:34:44 pm
This piece  in Salon, chapter six of Andrew Leonard's online book-in-the-works, is titled Finland -- the open-source society. Here we learn why Finland is so dominant in cell phones. This lucky 21st-century positioning was set up a century ago by the Finnish government's decision to grant phone company licenses to every applicant, instead of making phone service a monopoly. Seems the Finns feared that the Russians, who dominated them, might try to take over the phone system, and wanted it decentralized. I owe this link to Travis J.I. Corcoran, who adds his own uniquely American coda to the Finnish constitution:
> A well anarchized telecom infrastructure, being necessary to the > security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear > Phones, shall not be Infringed.
 http://www.salon.com/tech/fsp/2000/04/20/chapter_six_part_1/index.html ____________________________________
 http://www.peacefire.org/security/jscookies/ ____________________________________
++ It's jargon time again 11:45:06 am
Join the Jargon Scout  for today's hot-off-the-email crop of terms: dot-communist, bugwards-compatible, and emailingering.
 http://tbtf.com/jargon-scout.html#s0? ____________________________________
++ NoWeDontHaveaWebSite.com 2:30:41 pm
Many new items in the Home for Bogus and Self-Referential URLs : KilltheDot.com, SHHHH!!! dot com, www.FumblingWithACondom.com, www.spear-a-boar.com, fastenyourseatbelt.com, dot-dotcom.com, www.dont_get_it. See the "Advertising" and "Other" sections.
 http://nowedonthaveawebsite.com/ ____________________________________
++ Fiber bites backhoes (and cars) 2:32:42 pm
The war between backhoe and fiber  is usually pretty one-sided. But TBTF Irregular Eric Scheid points out one way in which fiber is landing some blows. It seems that city streets, repeatedly dug up and poorly patched back together to install fiber, are wreaking havoc on vehicles' front ends. As TechWeb  says,
> ...auto repair shops are likely benefiting big from the broadband > explosion as streets are torn up to wire locations where there is a > concentration of Internet users. Innovation is causing untold > damage to axles and undercarriages.
 http://tbtf.com/threads.html#Tbvf  http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20000413S0008 __________________________________________________________________________
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