Re: [CBS MarketWatch] A nose by any other name

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From: Ryan S. Upton (
Date: Mon Jun 26 2000 - 14:14:20 PDT

authentication IS identification by definition, This simply provides one of
three methods of it; "Something you are"... The problem with "Something you
are" auth is that you have "something they can cut off", or worse,
"something you can't change when the device or system has a know exploit" I
don't know about you, but memorizing a new password beats getting a new
nose (or EYE!) any day.

At 6/25/00 02:27 PM -0500, you wrote:
>On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Linda wrote:
> > "You won't need to give out your credit card number or remember a
> > password," Atick said. "The system will be able to authenticate that you
> > are who you are and you will be able to do what you want and need to do
> > without all the hassles."
>Silly reporters using the wrong words, no doubt intentionally
>misinformed by a marketing department. They ment identify of
>course, not authenticate.
>Identification without the messy hassles of authentication. Pesky
>authentication! The user has to have 2 brain cells to rub together,
>which is way too much trouble. Never mind that security is
>authentication, NOT identification. Banks and most places already use
>only public identity info for most things like signing up for online
>access. Get a clue people, your birthday, SSN, and mom's name are not a
>secret. How many spams do I get a week for people selling this info
>along with everything else about anyone I want? I'm sure they now
>include all my info, CC numbers, and signature files from the little pad
>thing I have to sign at the store. Welcome to the golden age of fraud.
>Once biometric-only systems become the norm, fraud rates will go
>exponential because the systems are SOOOO easy to break. Pray this trend
>gets killed sooner rather then later.
>- Adam L. Beberg
> Mithral Communications & Design, Inc.
> The Cosm Project -
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