Re: [Fwd: Eliezer speaks (forwardable)] - was loserhood and analysis

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From: Jeff Bone (
Date: Thu Aug 17 2000 - 15:17:46 PDT

Jeff Bone wrote:

> Strata Rose Chalup wrote:
> >
> > I still have strong reservations about the the desirability of the
> > end-goal, as well as the methods, but I no longer believe that the folks
> > in charge are running a backyard nitroglycerin lab and using hammers for
> > QA.
> Actually, Strata, I'm not so sure.

Actually, on second thought, I'm not worried. There's a reasonable window of
opportunity to handle the threat; it takes at least (what, 16 hours? Bueller?
Bueller?) for gray goo to consume the Earth, most of which happens in the last
minutes. Plenty of time to take out one out-of-control 21 year old lunatic, his
pet superintelligence, and his bucket of assemblers. ;-) All it takes is a single
well-placed tacnuke. And for sure, the folks building this stuff aren't
politically or socially savvy enough to smooth over things with the Status Quo so
as to not be perceived as a threat.


Having said all that, I'm incredibly surprised to find myself arguing, in essense,
in parity with Joy. Let me refine that a bit: I actually *completely* believe in
the desirability of the end-goal Brian and Eliezer are gunning for... but I think
that in order to "do the right thing" there has to be some sort of logical,
quantifiable framework for allowing all those who will be impacted to have input
into what gets done (to them) with / by that technology.

Wow, shocker.


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