Re: [NYT] Phone Surfing for a Few Yen...

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From: Strata Rose Chalup (
Date: Tue Aug 22 2000 - 14:38:34 PDT

When I select "launch web browser", I get a little dialog about "You
will be charged for this call []Agree [|]Cancel" before it launches.

To which part of "free" does that apply? Methinks you are conflating
content with delivery when talking about free. As long as delivery
charges minutes or fractions of minutes, the phone companies are happy.


"Adam L. Beberg" wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Adam Rifkin wrote:
> > > "It's a new business model" for information providers on the
> > > Internet, said Toby Rodes, an analyst with Nikko Salomon Smith Barney
> > > in Tokyo. "With the PC, they made a mistake and put up all the
> > > contents for free, and you can't go back and start charging people.
> > > With mobile Internet, there will always be price for content."
> An absolute cut through all the hype viewpoint from someone on the
> telephony side of things. If you give it away, or anyone else gives it
> away, the game is OVER. Please insert 50 cents and find a new
> distribution channel to play again. The Web game is over, bigtime,
> people are just racing to give stuff away. Remember how much of a fight
> AOL put up before they would let their users roam the internet, looks
> like they weren't so dumb to fight it afterall.
> With WAP, I think people made the same mistake again, too much free
> stuff, it remains to be seen if they will make it yet again with the
> DoMoCo stuff here in the west. We're running out of controlled bit
> distribution channels aren't we?
> That noise you hear isn't hype, it's the sound of a million geeks saying
> "oops" while everyone laughs and downloads more free stuff.
> - Adam L. Beberg
> Mithral Communications & Design, Inc.
> The Cosm Project -
> -

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