Re: W3C jobs to Ms again?

Sally Khudairi (
Fri, 07 Aug 1998 13:43:57 -0400

My dearest Tim,

I can assure you that WWW doesn't stand for Web/Windows/W3C.

However, the best person to answer your question is Chris Lilley, W3C
Graphics Activity Lead. I've copied Chris to bring him up to speed.

Chris, thanks in advance for following up here.

Sally Khudairi
Keeper of the Public Image

Tim Byars wrote:
> (I'm hoping for some clarification on this from someone at the W3C.)
> First let me explain the title. No that isn't Steve Jobs, that's jobs as in
> jobber in Pro Wrestling. If you've ever seen Pro Wrestling you will see
> these guys that come out, obviously out of shape and lose the match. They
> are called jobbers and their job is to lose and make the guy their losing
> to look good. Hence the title, W3C jobs to Ms again?
> If my suspicions are correct the ? should be changed to a !.
> Let's look at a recent spec from the W3C:
> > All RGB colors are specified in the sRGB color
> > space (see [SRGB]). User agents may vary in the
> > fidelity with which they represent these colors, but
> > using sRGB provides an unambiguous and
> > objectively measurable definition of what the color
> > should be, which can be related to international
> > standards (see [COLORIMETRY]).
> >
> > Conforming user agents may limit their
> > color-displaying efforts to performing a
> > gamma-correction on them. sRGB specifies a
> > display gamma of 2.2 under specified viewing
> > conditions. User agents should adjust the colors
> > given in CSS such that, in combination with an
> > output device's "natural" display gamma, an
> > effective display gamma of 2.2 is produced. See the
> > section on gamma correction for further details.
> > Note that only colors specified in CSS are affected;
> > e.g., images are expected to carry their own color
> > information.
> >
> My take on this is the W3C has rolled over for Ms and their use of sRGB. So
> if you have a Mac/Sun/Linux (I'm guessing because I can't seem to get an
> answer) you are not going to see the colors or going to see different
> colors in CSS than what some flub on his Packard Bell Win'98 box gets.
> Worse the flub on his Packard Bell will be seeing the correct colors.
> Let's read on:
> > Values outside the device gamut should be clipped:
> > the red, green, and blue values must be changed
> > to fall within the range supported by the device.
> Yep that is what it seems like to me.
> So someone correct me and tell me I'm wrong. Tell me the WWW doesn't stand
> for Web/Windows/W3C.
> Tim
> --
> That's OK. He'll burn in hell. - Steve Jobs
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