Re: Getting together in Las Vegas, was Re: Antitrust

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From: Adam Rifkin (
Date: Wed Jan 03 2001 - 14:13:44 PST

In his FoRKpost

Gordon wrote:
> Hey! I *do* have to work for a living and I love what I'm working on,
> but if it didn't leave time for any other goals, what's the point?

Man, do *not* tell your investors this. You have one goal: create more
value for your shareholders. Nothing else really comes close to
mattering until you no longer have shareholders.

> Methinks you need a nap, and probably a weekend trip to Vegas, lest
> you spontaneously combust. :)

Ok, had my nap, still cranky, time to flame someone. I could jump into
the brouhaha about Web services but frankly Mark Baker has been more
articulate in expressing what I was thinking than I probably could have
been. I remember a few years ago in the "Climbing Clueful Mountain"
posts that we sometimes get to the point in a discussion where not much
more can be contributed, so everyone needs to go back and reread what
was said and cogitate, and it seems to me that with the Web services
discussion that's where we are. The thread on Web services started here:

But I just gotta flame someone. Sorry, Gordon, but you posted old bits:
> Wow, DSL firms all seem to be in a tailspin: Rhythms, Covad, Northpoint,
> Flashcom, Digital Broadband. And, in a last-minute entry for "PR gaffe
> of 2000", a Northpoint spokesman responding to customer service problems
> told the NYTimes last week:
> "We don't have time to comment on individual cases like these.
> Our highest executives are just struggling to keep the company
> alive, that is their most important objective at this point."

This was already posted by Linda on December 28:


So I'm gonna have to write you up... this time's just a warning... :)

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Thank you for the time you have taken to read this. Live n' Learn. Next time
it happens, though, we make you the mediator for Major-League Baseball.


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