I know this is to simple....

CobraBoy (tbyars@earthlink.net)
Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:58:22 -0700

But since it seems the W3c has a little visability problem (other than to
Microsoft) here is a service or approval seal that would be a good idea. I
know it is much more fun to fly around the world going to seminars and
proposing standards, but in the real world the whole .html authoring thing
has become a total fuckin' mess (tm).

If you go around and look at various web pages you will see not one person
doing anything the same as the other, and due to Netscapes wonderful
ability to make sense out of this, everybody gets away with it.

Now with authoring packages getting more and more prevalent, my idea is to
have a W3c "Good Housekeeping" seal of approval on the various authoring
packages. This would prompt the lazy ass software companies to create
programs that generate .html legal code, add visability to the W3c, and
allow the two browser companies to tighten up their code.

As an example I give you...

[PageMaker 6.5]

PageMaker now does layers, HTML
by Daniel Will-Harris
The stuff Web sites are made of often had a
previous life--on paper. Until recently,
converting a paper document to its Web
incarnation could require a lot of work (and
work-arounds). But the upcoming release of Adobe
PageMaker 6.5 is designed to help automate the
conversion from paper to screen.

PageMaker has always been known for its ease of
use, but it has also been known as a program that
requires manual intervention for virtually every
layout change. Now with the new Auto Adjust
layout feature, PageMaker can intelligently
rearrange a paper page (tall) into a screen page
(wide), moving text and graphics and even sizing
them proportionately. While you may still need to
do some manual intervention, Auto Adjust gives
you a good head start.
The program's new layers feature (which should be
familiar to illustration program users) makes it
easier to build documents that are complex or
that require different elements for different
locales, languages, or formats. For example, one
layer could include navigation buttons for the
Web that would only be seen in electronic

Page layout frames (not to be confused with HTML
frames) have finally been included in PageMaker.
Frames let you create layouts you can reuse
because the layout is separate from the content.
You can still use PageMaker's familiar free-form
layout features.
[link to screenshot]PageMaker also imports and
exports HTML files, complete
with in-line graphics and links. PageMaker is
fully hyperlink-savvy, whether the links are
imported in an HTML file, entered manually, or
dragged in from Navigator. The link targets can
even be previewed in PageMaker.

When exporting to HTML, you can preserve as much
of the page layout as HTML supports, so that
columns of text still appear as columns (when
viewed with a browser that supports tables).
PageMaker automatically converts TIFF, EPS
preview, PICT, and Metafile graphics into JPEG or
GIF files. And PageMaker's plug-in architecture
should make it easy to add support for new HTML
features as they evolve.
=46or documents with more complex formatting,
PageMaker is now more closely linked to Acrobat,
including support for embedding QuickTime movies
in a PageMaker document and publishing it to an
Acrobat file. Tables of contents and indexes are
automatically converted to Acrobat links and

PageMaker 6.5 includes a valuable selection of
additional software: the Adobe Acrobat Distiller,
Adobe Acrobat Reader, Adobe Photoshop Limited
Edition (Windows only), and the Adobe Type On
Call CD-ROM with 220 free, unlocked fonts.
While PageMaker was once falling behind the
competition, it now leaps to the forefront. It
brings new electronic life to old documents and
lets you create original documents simultaneously
for paper and screen.

PageMaker 6.5
List price: $895; or upgrade for $99
Adobe Systems Inc., 800/833-6687
[pc] Intel 486, 8MB (Windows 95) or 16MB (Windows NT
Workstation 4.0) RAM, VGA display card, 26MB of free hard
drive space, Windows 95 or Windows NT Workstation 4.0
[mac] 68030, 6MB (Macintosh) or 9MB (Power Macintosh) RAM
available to PageMaker, CD-ROM drive (3.5-inch disk set
available for purchase), 26MB of free hard drive space,
System 7.1

Copyright =A9 1996 CNET Inc. All rights reserved

As a further suggestion I know someone that has 1) both Win'95 and Mac's to
test said applications on, 2) a commerical web site to list "approved"



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