Re: My music notes, Feb 4, 1998.

Hakon Lie (
Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:12:36 -0500 (EST)

I'm not a real doofus, but I play one at a national laboratory. writes:=

> > If only [Beethoven's] symphonies weren't so overplayed!=20
> I could be happy for a long time with only Beethoven's concerti, esp=
> the Emperor and the Violin Concerto.

Not to mention the piano sonatas. There's always something new to
discover, especially in the Gould recordings.

> But, eventually, I would miss Bach,=20
> Handel, Mozart, which are all pretty easy to like. Not to mention Z=
> Floyd, Zeppelin, Kottke, Costello, and Lovett.

Costello, I believe, is a heavily addicted to classical music.

> How about Mahler's symphonies? I'm mostly familiar with the 4th, wh=
ich I love.

I enjoy Mahler very much, especially the 8th. Calling it a symphony,
however, is slighly misleading. This is rock'n'roll anno 1910. No
amplifiers, but 1000 people.

In gereral, I find Bruckner's symphonies more inspiring, though.
They're certainly not overplayed -- can you really enjoy Mahler's 5th
after seeing Visconti's "Death in Venice"?

Also, I think Carl Nielsen is a much undervalued composer of this

> > > So, what do you like?
> >=20
> > In the orchestral realm, almost anything EXCEPT:
> > 1.=09Aimless featureless romantic pieces suggestive of landscapes =
> > by mediocre composers (I don't like Bax)
> So, no Debussy (Prelude To The Afternoon Of A {Fawn, Clover, Wendy, =
> Or Elgar, Britten or Von Williams? Not even Grieg or Sibelius?

Debussy ends up at the bottom of my lists, but Grieg and Sibelius are
steady climbers. I dont't think the they should be grouped together
with Debussy who's been credited with starting modern music (he has a
lot to answer for). Grieg and Sibelius are much more romantic. I could
be biased here since their tonal language comes right out of the
forests where I grew up.

Did anyone read "The Gold Bug Variations" by Richard Powers [1]? The
book is structured around Bach's Goldberg variations along with Watson
& Crick's double helix. Truly an amazing travel through music, science
and computer codes. Up there with Hofstadter.



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