From: Joseph R. Kiniry <email@example.com>
To: I Find Karma <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Cc: email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org;
email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org; email@example.com
Subject: Who's on FoRK. (Removing redundancies from dist-obj-nofork@cs)
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 4:55 PM
Thx. I have removed Tom(whore), Ron, Dave, Charles, and Sandor
from the dist-obj-nofork list.
I Find Karma writes:
> The current list of FoRKers, in reverse order joined:
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Ron
> email@example.com - Lloyd
> 4.timBL@w3.org - Tim
> Before you mail Tim:
> If you need someone to find something for you about
some arbitrary subject (travel agents, or
> parakeets or whatever), don't ask him, but try the
Virtual Library for example.
> If you want to know how to run a server, or how to
edit HTML, check the W3C web or your local
> bookstore. He's sorry he can't answer individual
requests for help.
> If you can't access something on www.w3.org , you find
bad links from www.w3.org pages, or errors
> in the hypertext please see the webmaster's
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Signa
> email@example.com - Sally
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Jeff
> email@example.com - Robert
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Simon
> email@example.com - Doron
> firstname.lastname@example.org / email@example.com - Yaron
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Thomas
> email@example.com - Dave
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Gil
> email@example.com - Michael
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Daniel
> email@example.com - Joe
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Mark
> email@example.com - Dan
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Michele
> email@example.com - Dave
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Charles
> email@example.com - Chris
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Art
> 27.ListSaveremail@example.com - FindMail FoRK Archive
> firstname.lastname@example.org - George
> email@example.com - Peymon
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Joseph
> email@example.com - Roy
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Greg
> email@example.com - Philip
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Mike
> 35.JRChang+@CMU.EDU - John
> email@example.com - John
> 37.SCharlesL@aol.com - Steve
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Dave
> email@example.com - Jay
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Dave
> email@example.com - tomwhore
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Keith
> email@example.com - Eric
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Hokkun
> email@example.com - Clover
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Seth
> email@example.com - Gerald
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Sandor
> email@example.com - Håkon
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Dan
> email@example.com - Rumman
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Bobby
> email@example.com - Todd
> firstname.lastname@example.org - John
> email@example.com - John
> firstname.lastname@example.org - JoeB
> email@example.com - Brian
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Mark
> email@example.com - Douglas
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Jim
> email@example.com - Ron
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Mark "The Shark"
> email@example.com - Dan "The Man"
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Henrik
> email@example.com - Wayne
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Magnus
> email@example.com - Robert
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Wendy
> email@example.com - Dobbin
> firstname.lastname@example.org - The Robster
> email@example.com - Gordon
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Ernie
> email@example.com - Adam
> firstname.lastname@example.org - Rohit
-- Joseph R. Kiniry A1 F9 C5 8C B3 43 54 20 FA 20 63 80 53 C3 6D 85 California Institute of Technology ID 78860581 ICQ 4344804 ----------
1) Adam - Heeeeeey!! Wait a minute - just cuz I drop off fork for a little R&R, I get bumped to the back of the list? What's with that - don't I get my old spot back with Mark - ie down near #59? This is unfair - I demand dignified treatment as a veteran, harumph :-)
2) So, let me get this straight - we are strictly barred from emailing timBL@w3.org directly to ask for help with our sick parakeets. But it's perfectly ok if I want to mail to email@example.com for some communal group therapy for my sick parakeet Fifi, and TBL just becomes one of the fellas who suggests cold compresses and a vacation in tropical Tahiti? Wow, I've never mingled with royalty before (does Rohit count?) I'm getting all tingly :-). [Psst - remind me someone - which is the shrimp FoRK and which is the salad FoRK.]
3) JoeK - Check carefully - I'm pretty sure that firstname.lastname@example.org is a dist-obj crossover, and that email@example.com is none other than Dave Crook firstname.lastname@example.org, also now on dist-obj. Oh, and email@example.com should be Darren, not Dave, and is also on dist-obj if memory serves. Wasn't SteveP - Darren's buddy - also on both lists? Is he off FoRK now?
I assume that real old timers like JoeB, Mark, Adam, DMZ, and Wayne are already accounted for in the dist-obj-nofork set.
Summary: maintaining dist-obj-nofork is probably more hassle than it's worth.
Anybody got a problem with any of that? Speak now or forever hold your peace...
Ob.useless-stats: I observe that dist-obj having recently crossed 150 is precisely double FoRK at its present 75. FoRK having been around since - what? fall of 95? is about 28 months old. dist-obj started after Mark&I met Joe at OOPSLA96, making it about 16 months old.
dist-obj avg. rate of growth - 154/16 = 9.6 members/month FoRK avg. rate of growth - 75/28 = 2.7 members/month Not very accurate, since the growths have not been linear for either list (dist-obj took well over half a year to get to 30, and now gets 30 in about 2 months, I figure).
Also, this is hardly a 'my dick is longer than your dick' competition. We're actively concerned about dist-obj growing beyond the point where it can no longer serve its original purpose, as a quiet, thoughtful, reflective place.
We got so noisy in the last few days (no thanks to loudmouths like Adam and me - and Doug Lea) - that we're now dumping our garbage on FoRK's front lawn - let's see how they like it for a change :-).