Re: cooking celery

Gregory Alan Bolcer (
Tue, 09 Feb 1999 08:38:45 -0800

I was going to update my Dell PII-300 laptop with the new 366mhz,
but according to their pipeline, they are coming out with 450mhz and
600mhz portables (before the desktops) 2nd and 3rd quarter this year,
so it makes it hard to justify the early termination penalty on the
lease. Actually, if anyone knows anybody at Dell that has the authority
to waive the lease, write the upgrade order, or otherwise kiss my consumer
butt, send me their email.

Intel is odd, they want to discourage overclocking as a lot of second
and third party vendors, particularly assembly/builders will overclock
a second rate chip to fetch a premium from an unsuspecting bargain
hunter. The claim its consumer protection, I think it's that they
are just frat-boy jealous that they can't screw the customer.


"Joseph S. Barrera III" wrote:
> Those of you who care, probably already know, but just in case, check out
> the following...
> The overclocking population was taken by surprise when the cacheless Celeron
> 266, albeit clock-locked, could be taken up to 400MHz and beyond depending
> on the specific case. This was quickly denounced as a fluke related to the
> fact that the cacheless Celeron didn't have any clock speed limiting L2
> cache on-board to prevent it from being overclocked, and for the time, this
> justification stuck; until Intel dropped another bombshell on the market,
> the, now famous, Celeron 300A. As mentioned before, outfitted with a full
> 128KB of L2 cache running at clock speed, the Celeron 300A shocked the
> community once again with its ability to hit 450MHz (in most cases) and
> definitely achievable without being limited by the L2 cache.
> The joyride is indeed coming to an end.
> Well, there is no longer any doubt that the Slot One Celeron 300A is out of
> production. *It is*. Besides Intel's Product Change notification that I
> shared with you last week, we find that this version of the processor is not
> even included on the list of price cuts announced for February 7th.
> The original retail version, sSPEC SL32A, has become scarcer than a sober
> head at a Dentists convention. Of course, Intel is now packaging the former
> OEM version, SL2WM for retail sale to fill the void. More on that later...
> I have never seen the supply of a discontinued CPU dry up so fast! Usually,
> when a processor is canceled, we can count on 6 months supply or so. Not so
> in this case. The SL32A's disappeared in a matter of 2 weeks. It is a
> feeding frenzy! There are still pockets of chips available, but supply is
> very spotty and quantities are very small.
> Beyond all that, I have this pathological need to *know*, rather than just
> *hear*. Several large vendors, as well as a good size number of individuals
> contacted me and told me that these new retails were doing the 450 Tango
> just fine. This is all well and good, but without actually touching,
> testing, feeling, stroking... HeHe.
> On the other hand, I heard from a very trustworthy smaller vendor that these
> chips were not doing well on his bench. This is a guy that I *absolutely*
> believe, so hopefully he just got his hands on a bad batch. He did, however,
> tell me that he's two for two with the 366A at 550Mhz, *default voltage*.
> HMM...