Re: Baked XML With Sour Grapes and ArChives [Draft -1 !!!]

Mark Baker (
Sat, 28 Jun 1997 18:55:39 -0400

At 04:54 PM 28/6/97 +0300, Ron Resnick wrote:
>Yuck. As Mark will hasten to tell you in great detail, 'application' is
>such an ugly word, in your world and ours.

Er, yeah. What he said.

>Um, yes, I'd agree with much of this. Mind you, it presupposes that
>the point of the exercise is to pull all the objects together to one
>(time/space) coordinate, which I've already indicated doesn't have to be
>the goal.

One of the things that CORBA does have going for it that Java doesn't (for
is the notion of persistent object references/URLs. i.e. that it doesn't
if the object is active in memory, or pickled to tape, punch-cards, or
teeth marks
in play-doh; if you've got an adapter that can unpickle/reactivate it, that
objref/URL is always useable as-is.

That means that you don't need to pre-walk your structure in order to pickle.
Just pickle the ref, and it's still valid. By-value, or by-reference doesn't

What ever happened to those "synergistic" arguments that we were expecting
with the
"How I learned to stop worrying and love HTTP" paper? I think you'd do a
lot better
to concentrate on those points than to try to find flaws with distributed
computing. Plus, I'm really interested to hear them.


Mark Baker, Ottawa Ontario CANADA.              Java, CORBA, OpenDoc, Beans,  

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