Re: The P in P2P

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From: Strata Rose Chalup (strata@virtual.net)
Date: Mon Sep 11 2000 - 12:40:25 PDT


Can we get that without a huge immersive system that eats all your files
and leaves them in some lame format that you have to recover from if you
want to change systems or work outside them? And can it have decent
indexing so that you don't have to "discover" everything but can really
know what's going on?

Somebody at work put in a wiki as a collaboration system, and only the
fact that it has a "Recent Changes" feature kept me from hitting the
roof. I suppose I could write a script that would do an ls -lstr on the
wiki directory every hour so I'd see what was going on, but if it used a
database backend like so many of these kinds of things do I'd be SOL.

Flat files are GOOD. The web took off like a rocket because it
supported flat files, nice portable, marked-up flat files by DEFAULT but
ALSO could call an arbitrary handler on other kinds of files, and that
handling was user-transparent but CONFIGURABLE. Don't you be talkin' no
behind the scenes hidden files DLLtrickery "always use this program to
open this file"-then-disappear weirdass stuff.

Surly today,
_Strata

Dave Winer wrote:
>
> To really pull it off, imho, you need more than an HTTP server.
>
> You need really good text editing, an outliner, and a content management
> system, and lots of user-oriented stuff built on all that stuff.
>
> Apache doesn't have anything for the "user experience" and doesn't run
> particularly well on the popular end-user platforms.
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "S. Mike Dierken" <mike@knownow.com>
> To: <FoRK@xent.ICS.UCI.EDU>
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:50 AM
> Subject: RE: The P in P2P
>
> > >
> > > > If only we had some sort of OpenSource project with a cross platform,
> > > > standards compliant, install in 5 minutes, extensible kind of server.
> > >
> > > Not sure if you're being facetious, but that is the goal of the WorldOS
> > > project - to be an Apache for p2p. See worldos.org.
> > >
> > > - Lucas
> > Why can't Apache be the Apache for p2p?
> >
> >
> > MikeD

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> > standards compliant, install in 5 minutes, extensible kind of server.
> Dang,
> > that would be popular! Wouldn't it?
> > Or maybe some techno-company will go to the extreme of usability and
> embrace
> > and extend a common GUI operating system to let you right click a folder
> and
> > say 'share this folder'. Dang, that would be easy to use! Wouldn't it?
> >
> > MikeD
> >

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