From: Dave Winer (dave@userland.com)
Date: Mon Sep 18 2000 - 10:36:10 PDT
Oy, go read the archives if you missed the point. People say shit about open
source this and open source that, as if they were being scientific. Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Bone" <jbone@jump.net>
To: "Dave Winer" <dave@userland.com>
Cc: <FoRK@xent.com>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: More math and open source
>
>
> Dave Winer wrote:
>
> > I refer you to the discussion on discuss.userland.com re the logic you
and
> > others use re open source.
>
> Thoroughly confused? I think you're confusing your principals, Dave.
Last
> thing I released open source was a nasty afternoon hack called "mudtool"
back in
> 1991 or so. I'm no GPL zealot, no open source revolutionary, though I'm
quite
> happy that people keep shipping all this great free stuff.
>
> > http://discuss.userland.com/msgReader$21465
>
> Methinks the problem you're having is purely definitional. There are lots
of
> sets of axioms, lots of subtopics and equally valid points of view.
Arguing
> about what's Open Source and what's not is like arguing about whether
number
> theory or category theory is the "One True Math." Or, more correctly,
"the One
> True Religion." Just like you've got to leave all those nasty CoC people
who
> think they're they only ones going to heaven alone, likewise why not just
ignore
> the Open Sourcetistas?
>
> > It is a past tense thing, in the sense that the roadblocks it put up are
> > gone, kaput, no longer in the way.
>
> ?
>
> > We're able to work with other developers
> > without the nasty bullshit getting in the way. Sure we share source
code,
> > and we're slaves too, and we love it. We have cathedrals and bazaars,
and
> > users, and they help us.
>
> Sounds great!
>
> > There's nothing new there, after all the michegas is sorted through, the
> > things people say about open source apply to commercial development as
well.
> > We've been doing this for generations.
> >
>
> Is there a *point,* Dave? ;-)
>
> >
> > Rather than being a revolution, it's lined some peoples' pockets nicely,
and
> > the software development world continues to be filled with hard working
> > people doing it for love.
>
> ...and nobody would do it if they didn't love it. :-)
>
> jb
>
>
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