Welcome Derek, James, Tony, and Jacob...

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From: Adam Rifkin (adam@KnowNow.com)
Date: Thu Sep 28 2000 - 23:18:04 PDT

Jacob, in subscribing, asks:
> I wonder if this is a list bot or does somebody actually read this...

I assure you, someone actually reads it. And every once and a while we
actually update the mailing list and subscribe people.

We've lost several people this month (too much email I spose) and gained
several people this month. Someone actually subscribed and unsubscribed
within an hour of being added.

So our ranks are hovering around 190-or-so subscribed to FoRK (and, no
kidding, 3% of them currently work for KnowNow). By my estimates, FoRK
has more or less doubled in size each year since it started two weeks
after Microsoft's Pearl-Harbor-Day announcement in 1995. Power of the
Internet, baby. I do wonder what a FoRKlist of 380 people would look
like, but then again, when FoRK was hovering around 95 people, I
wondered what a FoRKlist of 190 people would look like...

Anyway, feel free to forward stuff about yourselves to the list. Allow
me the honor of forwarding Derek's request.

> From: Derek Robinson <nnvsnu@yahoo.com>
> To: fork-request@xent.com
> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:29:42 +0100
> Subject: sign me up (thank-you)
> Organization: Standard Brains
> Reply-To: Derek Robinson <drdee@bigfoot.com>
> Rohit, Adam, whoever's doing the honours --
> I'm still not sure I really want to get *all* that stuff in my mailbox, but
> I just can't help myself ...
> I'm a Canadian art-computer-philosophy kind of guy living in Stockholm for
> the last year, working part-time as possibly the world's least-ept Linux
> sys-admin at the university bioinformatics dept (and BTW looking for offers
> elsewhere). For the last several months I've been browser-hacking in my
> spare time, the fruits of which have finally reached, um, fruition in a
> tiny (< 2K) in-situ WYSIWYG web editor (written in JScript for IE5). Check
> it out, I think you'll like it --
> http://standardbrains.editthispage.com
> (From Adam's recent post: "I believe that Web developers are the most
> nimble group of developers the world has ever seen. Whenever they need
> something that doesn't exist, they find and extend something that's already
> out there, and/or whip up scripts on-the-fly to do new and often amazing
> things.")
> Some early comments:
> John Udell: "Brilliant! Derek, this is the coolest thing I've seen lately."
> Rael Dornfest: "INCREDIBLE!"
> Dave Winer: (rendered momentarily speechless)
> Phil Harris: "In browser editing is so cool it's almost a popsickle ...
> we're wetting our pants!"
> Brendan Eich: "... have you tried any of this in Mozilla recently?"
> Jerry Spicklemire (Zope.org list): "Close your eyes ... and pretend that
> Zope can do this today! This is where we're headed with DAV, XML / DOM,
> Zope Studio, etc. If you can get to a desktop with this installed, it is
> such a trip to swipe some content, and edit in place, without a #%&@ text
> box! So this is what Tim Berners-Lee had in mind with that funny little put
> method ..."
> Jason Cunliffe (ditto): "No kidding. I heard him speak in London a few
> years ago. A major point he made then was that one of the key features of
> the first system he built using his NeXT cube was integrated editing. He
> mentioned how easy this was thanks the object builder stuff on NeXT. Went
> on to say how ironic the rapid success of www had been for him and his
> colleagues, as they watched the web take off - but with only 50% of the
> idea. Browse-only passive TV mode no user live edit. Passive
> implementations instead of the inter-active ones crucial to the first idea
> for a balanced remote collaboration system. He noted how people were
> obviously working hard to have all kinds of editing, but still in
> non-integrated fashion ... lots of html editing but always a separated
> process with separated update mechanisms."
> So am I in?
> D.

You're in. :)


The industry has now begun to discuss a new Bluetooth standard, generation 2, enabling speeds up to 10 megabit per second: This capacity will open up the gates for real-time video transmission. This means that the Bluetooth technology can be used in local residential networks or in business networks for telephony, Internet and TV. -- http://www.wirelessdevnet.com/articles/sep2000/bluetoothvideo.html

Unfortunately, we have found that Gnutella is not as scalable as the centralized Napster network. Translation: the more users, the less efficient. In recent weeks, doing a search or query with the program yielded little or no results. And it often timed out when it looked for files. -- http://music.zdnet.com/features/highnote/092100_gnutella_dead.html

Join New York Times fashion critic Cathy Horyn in looking back at photographs from the New York shows as she talks about trends, disappointments and her favorite looks. She remarks, "Overall, the mood for spring is girlish, with a slightly tough edge. Most designers moved away from the lady-like looks they showed for fall. . . . Expect a return of shorter skirts, more hot pants and more midriffs showing." -- http://www.nytimes.com/2000/09/28/living/28NYRE.html

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