From: Tom Whore (email@example.com)
Date: Tue Oct 03 2000 - 12:45:49 PDT
I have been on both ends of this.
I was trained by Kai, the legendary NetUberman. His idea of security is to
give the user the bare minimum and yell germanic sounding insults at them
if they ask for things like email and telnet. Ok not that bad, but the
main brunt of his teachings was to secure the system first and then worry
As admin I followed his guidelines pretty much to the letter up until the
last few years with WSMF. Things have gotten a lot more robust for
securing while letting things get done.
At work now im mostly into dev, not admining.IN that role Im finding
myself comming up with ways to get around our admins not being able,
thanks to gov laws, to open ssh ports and the like. So I tunnel and use
the web server as a nice hole out:)-
On the personal side I have been running with people who were never admins
and now are persoanl admins of their own DSL/Cable networks at home. The
joys and the responsibilities are a microcosm of the larger world of
router clouds and cisco hell.
For gatesians things like Zonealarm (www.zonelabs.come) and sites like
http://grc.com/default.htm help the end user get the tools to lcok down
thier systems..well mostly.
As it stands now I can tunnel my way thru my works FW but its a kludge.
The methods described here sound way nice.
IRc Ef net... the shrkinking there of. Some days I cant find a server
that will let me on. The number of servers is constanly falling. I refuse
to go on undernet or dal net. Why? who knows, im just bent that way. For
all talk of IM and the like its IRC that keeps my cloests to the people I
need to be close to. go figure)
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