This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C119FC.BDD15470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think he means RMI in the general sense - as in RPC. Think outside the closed box, Dave. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Winer [mailto:dave@userland.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:05 PM > To: Clay Shirky; Mike Dierken > Cc: fork@xent.com > Subject: Re: Web Services: Its So Crazy, It Just Might Not Work > > > RMI is a closed box. > > Good for Java-to-Java apps. > > Too bad not all developers use Java. > > Dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clay Shirky" <clay@shirky.com> > To: "Mike Dierken" <mike@DataChannel.com> > Cc: <fork@xent.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:51 PM > Subject: Re: Web Services: Its So Crazy, It Just Might Not Work > > > > > Loose coupling and remote method invocation sound like they are > > > opposites. But I suppose anything to help loosen the > coupling in an > > > RMI/RPC situation will help. > > > > Channeling the spirits of FoRK, I think Dave's answer would > be "That's > > what I've been saying for years" while Mark's would be "Nothing will > > help, because the brokeness is in the idea of RPC, not in the > > implementations." > > > > I guess what I'm trying to handicap is: is RMI like > hypertext, an old > > idea just waiting for the right environment, or is it like video > > phones, a technological capability its putative users have no actual > > use for? > > > > -clay > > > > > > http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C119FC.BDD15470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">RE: Web Services: Its So Crazy, It Just Might Not Work I think he means RMI in the general sense - as in = RPC.
Think outside the closed box, Dave.
> -----Original Message-----
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> From: Dave Winer [mailto:dave@userland.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:05 PM
> To: Clay Shirky; Mike Dierken
> Cc: fork@xent.com
> Subject: Re: Web Services: Its So Crazy, It = Just Might Not Work
>
>
> RMI is a closed box.
>
> Good for Java-to-Java apps.
>
> Too bad not all developers use Java.
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clay Shirky" = <clay@shirky.com>
> To: "Mike Dierken" = <mike@DataChannel.com>
> Cc: <fork@xent.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Web Services: Its So Crazy, It = Just Might Not Work
>
>
> > > Loose coupling and remote method = invocation sound like they are
> > > opposites. But I suppose = anything to help loosen the
> coupling in an
> > > RMI/RPC situation will help.
> >
> > Channeling the spirits of FoRK, I think = Dave's answer would
> be "That's
> > what I've been saying for years" = while Mark's would be "Nothing will
> > help, because the brokeness is in the idea = of RPC, not in the
> > implementations."
> >
> > I guess what I'm trying to handicap is: is = RMI like
> hypertext, an old
> > idea just waiting for the right = environment, or is it like video
> > phones, a technological capability its = putative users have no actual
> > use for?
> >
> > -clay
> >
> >
> > http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
>