Why "loss of productivity" is NOT an issue

CDale cdale@techmonkeys.net
Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:24:47 -0500 (CDT)

Okay, I guess the bottom line is to be respectful of other people's space.
A good example of a compromise that my family has is that, if we go to a
restaurant, if there are more smokers than nonsmokers, we sit in the
smoking section.  UNLESS there are kids present.  It's not impossible to
be courteous, though it may seem that many aren't, but many people aren't
courteous about a LOT of things.  How many times do you dodge a
discourteous driver, or how many times have you experienced a doctor who
is rude and short?   I think both these things are comparable: they both
are possibly a hazard to your health.  So, like, be excellent to each
other!  (:

P.S. I saw that movie again the other night, first time since, sheesh,
1998? and was surprised that I still LMAO at it  (:  Maybe I'm -not-
getting old.  (:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Bob Drzyzgula wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 05:34:07PM -0500, Jeff Bone wrote:
> >
> > Each of the above scenarios --- picnic, bar, restaurant --- have occurred to
> > me at various points;  slight variations on the latter two scenarios have in
> > fact occurred with some frequency.  I have *no problem* endeavoring to keep my
> > smoking away from those who find it unpleasant;  but that's not enough for the
> > anti-smoking crusaders.  No, they want to make sure that nobody is *allowed*
> > to smoke, *anywhere,* *anytime.*  Certainly not outside of their own homes,
> > and probably eventually not there.
> When I quit smoking, one of my biggest concerns was that
> I'd become an ex-smoker, with all the zealous intolerance
> that can imply. I think that I've done OK in this regard,
> but it's always a struggle.
> Anyway, I don't care if you do it in your home, in your
> yard, or anywhere else that amounts to your personal
> property.  I don't particularly care if you do it in the
> smoking lounge, the smoking section of a restaurant, out on
> the sidewalk, in a park, at the beach, or wherever. Perhaps
> you should do it more, I understand it to be something of
> a self-limiting process.
> In the odd event that I were to be with my family in the
> smoking section of a restaurant and happened to find you
> there giving your lungs another coat of tar, you can count
> on me to tell my daughter to leave you alone -- there,
> the rules explicitly favor you. Yes, this is happened,
> and yes, I've told her to cool it.
> But if I'm sitting at a bus stop, please do *not* sit down
> six inches away from me and light up.  Do this for me, and
> when I find you sitting at the bus stop having a smoke,
> I promise not to sit next to you and complain. Still,
> when it is pouring rain outside and the shelter at the bus
> stop is the only semi-dry place to wait, it remains pretty
> goddamned rude to fill the whole shelter with smoke, and
> were you to do that I might just have to be rude myself and
> ruin your blissful, non-private moment with a complaint.
> There are limits to my tolerance.
> Not that you necessarily ride busses...
> --Bob
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