Fw: "IT" is finally unveiled

Damien Morton morton@dennisinter.com
Mon, 3 Dec 2001 12:20:52 -0500

Frankly, I dont see a huge difference between an electric scooter (e.g.
www.xootr.com) and a 'segway', except for the positioning ans size of
the wheels and a complex, heavy and expensive control system.

               Xootr    Segway
Speed (mph)     17        17
Range (miles)   12        17
Weight (lbs)    20        65
Price ($)      1000      3000

Why the Governement would be buying these things at $8000 a pop escapes
me. What a fucking rip off. A good use for public money? Maybe they have
military applications?

In the Time article they talk about the regulatory issues, trying to get
the the thing authorised for footpath use. If they get footpath use for
this thing, then why not the Xootr?=20

I did see a lovely use of the non-electric Xootrs a while back. It was
at Schipol airport in Amsterdam. All the KLM hostesses used them to get
around the terminals. They wear these cute (red?) capes and look like
flying nuns as they whiz around on these scooters. Very cool. Very dutch

Damien Morton, Technical Director, Dennis Interactive

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-----Original Message-----
From: Antoun Nabhan [mailto:antoun@incellico.com]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:51 AM
To: Tom; Peter Kilby
Cc: fork@xent.com
Subject: Re: Fw: "IT" is finally unveiled

I don't understand who the heck is writing these articles that are so=20
skeptical about the need for these things. I've lived in cities for a
time and commuted by all sorts of methods, and I can't count the number
conversations I've had about this intermediate zone between walking
and driving length that isn't filled properly by bikes or Vespas or golf


A lot of this is a regulatory issue - two-wheeled vehicles would be
on the street if there were more of them and fewer cars, so that people=20
were calibrated to look out for and occasionally yield to such things.=20
(It's scary to ride a Vespa or motorcyle on the crowded, hilly streets
San Francisco, and I generally have a high tolerance for controllable
where wheeled vehicles are concerned.) Licensing is also more difficult
two-wheeled vehicles in my neck of the woods. Many other countries,
cities are not beset by tort lawyers and Nader disciples, have clued in
the notion that really tiny four-wheeled vehicles and motorized
vehicles are Good Things and should be encouraged, and bikes should be=20
allowed on sidewalks where they won't get door-gored nearly so often.

It would also be nice if these Segways would be widely used enough to
CARB to shut the hell up about electric cars, which in their paradigm
to have the capabilities - and hence weight - of real cars, but with a
less efficient power source.

Now, if they would just make Segways $1000-$1500 instead of $3000. But I

suppose that will happen with higher volume.


At 07:49 AM 12/3/01 -0800, Tom wrote:
>On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Tom wrote:
>--]The vids of this make me drool. I want. I wonder what the weight
limit is.
>250 lbs passenger limit. Well if the new kid was not incentive enough
>drop about 200 lbs adds to the pot. I bet I will get Ginger ready
>they are Mass Consumer ready.
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