Global warming is fearmongering brainwashing FUD

[Brian Atkins]

Matt Jensen wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Brian Atkins wrote:
> 
> > I have his "Tampering with Nature" piece on tape, should I post a streaming
> > version of it?
> 
> I caught the last third of that (it was a busy day).  Don't violate the
> copyright by posting the whole thing, but if you can reference a complete
> transcript, or similar, I'll take up your challenge.

I'm encoding it now, hopefully post it onto Morpheus tomorrow morning.
Search for tampering.wmv. If you don't have a Morpheus (Gnutella-like
network) client, get one here:

http://www.musiccity.com/en/frameset_web_fl_teal.html

Also Kazaa is the same network I think. If you leave your client running
after you download that would be nice, save me some bandwidth and speed
up other people's downloads.

> 
> > I'd love to see you poke some holes in the actual story
> > rather than sitting around making personal attacks
> 
> I think of a "personal attack" as "Fred cheats on his wife".  I think of
> "Fred shows a bias and is provably dishonest in his reporting" as a proper
> comment on his reportage, if the claims can be substantiated.  In
> Stossel's case, the claims have strong substantiation.
> 
> > based on stories you read on biased Green or other websites.
> 
> What websites would that be?  I read or scan over 200 news sources a day.
> I go out of my way to read material I expect I'll disagree with, and I
> often learn from it. For you to suggest otherwise without any evidence,
> *that's* what I'd call a personal attack.  I don't think I've done the
> same to you.
> 
> > I think it would valuable for
> > everyone here to spend a little time realizing just how much they may
> > have bought into the FUD of the Greens and other fearmongerers.
> 
> I've got to say that you do protest too much.  It is you who is bashing
> anyone with whom you disagree. You are the one who retitled this thread
> "Global warming is fearmongering brainwashing FUD". You are the one
> mongering fear, saying that:
> 
> "the 'Greens" are pretty much the lowest form of scum, way way worse than
> Microsoft, Scientology, or just about anything. They will use their
> fearmongering FUD and outright lies and anything else they need to do in
> order to keep people sending them money so they can pursue their real
> agenda of luddism, antitechnology, antiscience, etc."
> 
> Yeah, that pretty much sums up those who disagree with you on this list.
> Please.
> 
> Can't you discuss it rationally with us?  Why do we all have to be painted
> as so evil?  Is it that exciting fighting the Forces of Darkness?  I can't
> take your posts seriously anymore unless you can step back from your own
> dogma.  Sincerely,

You know what, you're absolutely right. "serenity now" is my new mantra.
-- 
Brian Atkins
Director, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence
http://www.singinst.org/