Chuck has all the answers but he won't tell us Re: Money, happiness, and the halting problem Re: I can finallyanswerone point-blank

[Brian Atkins]

Chuck Murcko wrote:
> 
> What you really need most desperately is a clue, IMHO as always.

Thank you sir may I have another?

> 
> Those "meaningless emotional state" concepts. Look at them a bit more
> closely, perhaps in several more years.

Oh, this is one of those "maturity" deals. Will you actually discuss it
with me when I get to be 49 years old?

> 
> In the immortal words of Wolfgang Pauli:
> 
> "This is not right. This is not even wrong."
> 
> or, quoth Foghorn Leghorn:
> 
> "I say-I say, son, you're barkin' up the wrong tree."

If you really want to discuss this subject feel free. We'd all love to
hear your views.

> 
> Best of Luck,
> Chuck
> 
> On Wednesday, July 25, 2001, at 02:14 PM, Brian Atkins wrote:
> 
> > I also (as one who has access to a little "jack") will go in agreement
> > with
> > both of you- more money does increase happiness, at least temporarily,
> > but
> > past a certain point it really doesn't add much, and no matter how much
> > you
> > have it doesn't really get you to being completely satisfied/happy.
> >
> > I think though that looking at it in terms of happiness is the wrong
> > way.
> > For starters you can be happy all you want (even if you're poor you can
> > pump your brain full of drugs) and it is all for nought when you're
> > dead.
> > Those experiences are just temporary IMO. Happy is a meaningless
> > emotional
> > state equivalent in many ways I would argue to getting high. If your
> > brain
> > was wired differently you might instead be discussing achieving what we
> > right now would describe as "achieving sadness".
> >
> > What I really want is more time, more intelligence, and more control
> > over
> > my environment. Money can buy me a little bit when it comes to
> > environment
> > but really not very much using today's technology. Ditto for number 1
> > and
> > 2. If I really want to maximize all three I have to use my money and
> > mind
> > to invest in creating a much higher level of technology. The advantages
> > of
> > having maximized those three things should be self-evident, but for
> > starters
> > it at least should a) let me understand better what really is important
> > (or what makes me happy in Jeff's case :-) b) give me as much time as I
> > need to accompish that.
> 
> Chuck Murcko
> Topsail Group
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> 
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Brian Atkins
Director, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence
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