Let's have a 'sensitive'war

[Damien Morton]

Which of James F Dunnigans works are you suggesting I read? I read his
How to Make War years ago when I was an avid wargamer. Wasnt aware of
his newer works.

How will reading his works change the reality that the great powers have
for 20 years financed and encouraged war in afghanistan. And that those
very same two powers are now, together, waging war on and encouraging
war in afghanistan.

However willing the afghanis are to wage war on each other, they would
be somewhat less able to do so without the help of the industrialised
nations that playout their power games there.=20

Can you really argue that the afghani communist governement of the late
70s is 'worse' than the Taliban of the 90s, and if you can, then who was
it worse for? the yankees, the afghanis, the ruskis, the iranis, the
pakis, the saudis? who?=20

Before there was Russia and a US to blame, there really wasnt a man to
"hold them down". Afghanistan held no interest for the great powers, and
so no great conflicts were played out there. Trust me on this: if youre
a small insignificant and backwards nation, keep very very quiet and
compliant and try not to attract the attention of great powers, else you
might be mired in multi-generational warfare on a scale your
pre-industrial culture can barely imagine. Dont just ask an afghani
about this, try angola also. Try anywhere where the great powers have
waged war by proxy.

Heres an interesting excersise: whilst few americans or russians died
during the cold war, it might be instructive to add up the numbers of
people who died fighting with american, or russian funding, equiptment,
training and encouragement. A tally of proxy deaths. If you could
actually come up with a number, I wonder who would win?=20

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Damien Morton, Technical Director, Dennis Interactive

The glass is neither half-full nor half-empty. Its too big.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom [mailto:tomwhore@inetarena.com]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 5:25 PM
To: Damien Morton
Cc: 'John Hall'; fork@xent.com
Subject: RE: Let's have a 'sensitive'war


On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Damien Morton wrote:

--]Christ what an ugly picture. How the Afghanis must hate the 'great'
--]powers  and they power struggles. All they have brought them is
misery
--]and death.


And before there was a US and Russia to blame, who was Da Man that held
them down?

What a load of bullshit. Yes we used them as did Russia BECAUSE they
wanted to be used, asked to be used and many of the people in charge
there
profited from that use and using at the expense of 99% of thier
countrymen.

Go read James F Dunnigans works on the matter.=20



The upshot is  Here and Now. The histroy of why we are where we are
should =20
NOT  cripple us but rather make us form better courses of actions form
this point on.

Appologists, revitionists and ProAntiist can all pucker up and kiss my
nooogge.

And the genreals in the field, Get your heads out of your asses and
start
building infrastructures over thier for lasting peace. Using the
northern
rebeles for this is a bad bad idea. Odds are we will be ramping up the
opium trade and get yet another brand of islamic facism. Time to put in
an
MTV puppet gov, get all the men horny and all the women out of the
burkas
and let loose the dawgs of hedonistic consumerism. That will quiet their
asses down for a few decades.


-tom