The "D" word...

Pang, Hokkun HPang@Yesmail.com
Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:40:20 -0600


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!>Zhou Jianxiong, a 30 year-old agricultural worker from Chunhua
!>township in Hunan province, died under torture on 15 May 1998.
!>Detained on 13 May, he was tortured by officials from the township
!>birth control office to make him reveal the whereabouts of his wife,
!>suspected of being pregnant without permission.  Zhou was hung upside
!>down, repeatedly whipped and beaten with wooden clubs, burned with
!>cigarette butts, branded with soldering irons, and had his genitals
!>ripped off.
!
!Source: Amnesty International.

well, i thank amnesty international for pointing out this out. 
as with any policy, it's bounded to have statistically irrelevant 
execution errors. but the policy itself is noble and it is in the 
interest of the majority. with 1/5 of the world's population, china 
had no choice but to sanction reproductive rights.

!This is one anecdote, but thousands more are killed or executed every
!year in China.  And this is progress?  I hate to imagine what it was
!like before.  I'm not sure there is progress actually.

you're not a chinese citizen, so the chinese government doesn't need to
consider what's progress to you. the government is doing its work when 
its citizens are satisfied with the progress. while i can't speak for the 
1.3 billion people in china, but i do believe majority of them think 
there's substantial progress over the past 20 years.

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RE: The "D" word...



!>Zhou Jianxiong, a 30 year-old agricultural worker from Chunhua
!>township in Hunan province, died under torture on 15 May 1998.
!>Detained on 13 May, he was tortured by officials from the township
!>birth control office to make him reveal the whereabouts of his wife,
!>suspected of being pregnant without permission.  Zhou was hung upside
!>down, repeatedly whipped and beaten with wooden clubs, burned with
!>cigarette butts, branded with soldering irons, and had his genitals
!>ripped off.
!
!Source: Amnesty International.

well, i thank amnesty international for pointing out this out.
as with any policy, it's bounded to have statistically irrelevant
execution errors. but the policy itself is noble and it is in the
interest of the majority. with 1/5 of the world's population, china
had no choice but to sanction reproductive rights.

!This is one anecdote, but thousands more are killed or executed every
!year in China.  And this is progress?  I hate to imagine what it was
!like before.  I'm not sure there is progress actually.

you're not a chinese citizen, so the chinese government doesn't need to
consider what's progress to you. the government is doing its work when
its citizens are satisfied with the progress. while i can't speak for the
1.3 billion people in china, but i do believe majority of them think
there's substantial progress over the past 20 years.

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