A new amorality in the Middle East

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Thu, 04 Apr 2002 18:11:14 -0500

In a message dated Thu, 4 Apr 2002  5:14:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, "John Hall" <johnhall@evergo.net> writes:

>I hope that Bush is just providing cover for the Israelis to continue to
>kill any Palestinian with a gun, discover and destroy bomb factories,
>round up and remove from circulation Palestinians actively conspiring to
>kill Israeli children, and obtain intelligence to make it easier to
>target same in the future.

A silly notion, by your recent definition of silly.

reality, from today's economist:

Besides, Palestinian leaders have calculated all along that Israeli escalation might bring them exactly what they wanted: international peacekeepers, and a leap beyond the gradualism of Oslo to a settlement that pushes Israel all the way back to its pre-1967 borders. The paradox of Mr Sharon's big new war is that it is also Mr Arafat's big new opportunity. He will not wish to squander it. 

A second complication is that nobody can be sure of Mr Sharon's true war aims. He certainly has form. As defence minister, and architect of Israel's calamitous Lebanon war of 1982, Mr Sharon proved adept at saying one thing to his cabinet, another to the Americans, and implementing a third policy on the ground. It is all very well for the Americans and his coalition partners to hope that this war will force the Palestinians back to a ceasefire and peace talks. But Mr Sharon is a champion of Jewish settlement in the West Bank and an avowed loather of Oslo. Although George Bush urges him to keep open a “pathway to peace”, Mr Sharon seems intent on making sure that Israel can never again negotiate with Mr Arafat, the “enemy” he publicly regrets sparing in 1982. 

Given this, it is no surprise that America has dithered. The fighting has put Mr Bush in a quandary. He is utterly serious about the global war he has declared on terrorism. After atrocities like the one at Netanya, he cannot say that what Israel is fighting is not terrorism. Yet Palestine does not fit the September 11th template. For this is terrorism harnessed to a deserving cause: the independent statehood that America itself has taken pains to say it supports. In principle, Mr Bush could solve his riddle by supporting the end but not the violent means by which the Palestinians have chosen to attain it. In practice, this probably requires working with Mr Arafat, a reformed terrorist returning to former ways. Hence the air of improvisation in American policy. Mr Bush appears to have given Mr Sharon a free hand for a short period, in the desperate hope that a chastened Mr Arafat, whom Israel is under orders to preserve, will thereafter see the error of his ways. 

If this is a plan, it is indeed a most desperate one. What if it should fail? Such is the misery of Israelis that Yossi Sarid, Israel's opposition leader, has proposed a previously unthinkable idea: the creation, in the Balkan manner, of some sort of international protectorate for the occupied territories, to restore calm while their ultimate status is resolved. For the present, virtually nobody takes this idea seriously. Mr Sharon would call it a reward for terrorism. Who would dare to supply the troops? In the 1940s, the British mandate in Palestine collapsed in chaos. But the day is coming when there may be no alternative. Except for Jews and Arabs, locked in their eternal embrace, to drown one another in a sea of blood. 

in its entirety, this opinion is found here: http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=1066945

the following belongs to johnhall:

>One poll cited that about 46% of Israelis now support an expulsion of
>all Palestinians, similar to what Kuwait did after the Gulf War.  If the
>Palestinians don't change (and they won't) that number will increase
>rapidly over the next year until that policy is implemented.
>And are you familiar with what the terrorist organization "Black
>September" refers too?  The Jordanians kicked the Palestinian forces of
>Arafat out in September.
>The Palestinians and the Arabs could have peace anytime they wanted it.
>If they did the following, the Palestinians would have a state within 12
>1) All Arab nations recognize Israel as a legitimate country, publish
>maps which clearly show Israel in the Mideast, and say they are 'at
>peace' with Israel and will exchange Ambassadors if the Palestinian
>issue is solved.  They say this in Arabic.
>2) Arab nations declare that homicide bombers attacking Israel citizens
>are terrorists and people who help them should be killed.  In Arabic.
>3) Arafat calls, daily, for a condemnation of homicide bombers in
>4) Cashing the check Saddam is handing out to the families of homicide
>bombers should receive the same punishment as murder.
>5) Arab nations crack down on their press for publishing blood libels
>about Jews and calling for jihad to the same extent they crack down on
>criticism of their own regime.
>6) Arab nations repudiate 'Right of Return' and pledge to assimilate the
>Diaspora.  Arab nations ask for aid to do this.
>7) PLO cracks down on groups and publications which call for the
>destruction of Israel, or imply Israel doesn't or shouldn't exist.
>8) PLO members involved with weapons that violate the Oslo accords are
>turned over to the Israelis.
>9) PLO begins a policy of turning over collaborators to Israel.
>10) PLO organizes children candle light vigils outside of Israeli
>settlements that sing 'we shall overcome'.
>11) PLO accepts the last Barak proposal, including a repudiation of the
>right of return and a declaration that the Golan Heights is an issue
>between Israel and Syria.
>Of course that won't happen.  But in other news ...
>This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which
>To view this item online, visit
>Thursday, April 4, 2002
>Let's pretend there is a Palestinian state
>Posted: April 4, 2002
>1:00 a.m. Eastern
>By Katy Whelan
>C 2002 WorldNetDaily.com 
>I think it's fair to say in order to prepare for a future state of
>Palestine, it may prove beneficial to journey into the unknown. Take a
>moment and step out of this present reality and into the world of our
>imagination. This will be a necessary tool in perceiving such a plan. I
>would hate to have to be the one to say I told you so or, be careful
>what you ask for. 
>Let's pretend that one day you wake up and read the morning paper. The
>headlines say, "A Nation is Born, the State of Palestine." Let's pretend
>that Yasser Arafat no longer lies, and he is now a man of honor driven
>to make a better life for his people. Let's pretend that the millions of
>dollars in aid subsidizing the Palestinian Authority and used to smuggle
>bombs, guns and weapons of carnage and death will be used to build a
>healthy society - a society filled with job opportunities, good
>education and prosperity for all Palestinians. 
>Imagine the schoolbooks that teach Palestinian children to hate and
>murder Jews are burned in the town square. Let's pretend Palestinian
>radio and television join in the celebration and destroy their library
>of media propaganda advocating martyrdom in order to achieve peace and
>heavenly reward. Let's pretend that the Palestinian people eagerly await
>the new schoolbooks that teach brotherly love and acceptance of their
>Jewish neighbors and to embrace the state of Israel with open arms. 
>Imagine that the Palestinian summer camps for children that instruct 5-
>and 6-year-old boys how to shoot and blow up Jews, are now filled with
>activities like painting, ceramics and horseback riding. 
>Let's also imagine that all Palestinian men, women and children wake up
>one day and have forgotten everything they have ever learned about
>hatred. All the mothers and fathers of children who have blown their
>bodies up for the cause of peace are now accepting the fact that it was
>all a lie, that their children were duped and sacrificed for absolutely
>nothing! Pretend they have forgiven their political and religious
>leaders for deceiving them and there is a sense of joy and forgiveness
>in the air. 
>Now don't give up yet folks! Stay with me on this one. The human mind is
>quite remarkable in its ability to venture beyond logic. Let's pretend
>that Yasser Arafat wakes up one day and one truth comes out of his
>mouth. He repents to his people and to the world for being a
>bloodthirsty killer. He asks forgiveness for masterminding and
>implementing terror on the world for the past 40 years. 
>Let's pretend that Yasser Arafat is a changed man. He no longer feels
>compelled to annihilate the Jewish people, but instead wants to live
>side by side in peace and harmony. 
>This will be a stretch for some. Try to imagine the tens of thousands of
>young Palestinian men (and women) who have known absolutely nothing but
>hatred and bloodlust towards the Jewish people from the time they were
>children, have found a new peace in their hearts. Imagine they surrender
>their guns, bombs and ideologies and long to befriend their Jewish
>brothers. Decades of lies, and PA-sponsored moral and social depravity
>have simply vanished from their lives. 
>Let's pretend that the Palestinian people are dancing in the streets,
>handing out candy and celebrating their newfound love for their Jewish
>neighbors and their willingness to embrace their differences and share
>their resources and live together in peace! 
>Game over. Reality check.
>The Middle East reality is that a Palestinian state will never and
>should never be allowed to exist within the borders of Israel! It simply
>will not work. It will be a cancer in the heart of Israel. Cancer is not
>something that can be negotiated with, nor can it be managed by
>"surgical strikes." It must be attacked aggressively and completely
>until all signs of the deadly disease are destroyed. 
>Aside from the fact that all of the land of Israel was promised to the
>Jewish people by the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the unfortunate
>reality is that Palestinian society, so diseased by hatred, will not be
>able to co- exist in peace with Israel. 
>Generations of Palestinian hostility and the destruction that follows
>will in fact grow more powerful if granted statehood. The cancer of
>Israel will have metastasized. It will now have a life and a sovereignty
>of its own. 
>We must stop pretending that a Palestinian State will bring peace to the
>Middle East. It will surely prove to be more deadly than any present
>horror that is occurring in Israel today. 
>Katy Whelan is a freelance writer.
But this is mine:

>> From: grlygrl201@aol.com [mailto:grlygrl201@aol.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:22 PM
>> To: johnhall@evergo.net
>> Cc: fork@xent.com
>> Subject: Re: A new amorality in the Middle East
>> are you saying that bush's entreaty is just politics?  worse, are you
>> saying that you hope it is?
>> http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/03/19/tenet.plan/index.html