A Brave and Modest Nation

Owen Byrne owen@permafrost.net
Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:59:14 -0300


I've had my first coffee, I can laugh at this now.
Your response (and GB's "we killed some Canadians. oh well. Lets move on to
something important - where's lunch?") pretty well validate what the article
was saying.
Of course it might be that the incidence of friendly fire is a touchy
subject, as it mostly invalidates talk of "surgical airstrikes" and
"avoiding civilian casualties."
Oh well, jack up the propaganda some more.
Owen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Mohr" <gojomo@usa.net>
To: <fork@xent.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: A Brave and Modest Nation


> I recognize *why* you're forwarding Canadian patriotic propaganda --
> such "misty-eyed" apologetics/rationalizations are typical reactions
> to tragedy, and every friendly-fire incident or other military casualty
> is certainly a tragedy. Every other country engages in the same sort
> mournful pride.
>
> But if you're going to sing those provincial paeans on a world stage,
> you'd best be ready to be confronted with a global sense of proportion.
>
> That your flag-wavers take so much pride in a tally of UN peacekeeping
> assignments, and then further that other flag-wavers actually find the
> exact tally and rankings a worthwhile subject of careful scrutiny, is
> quaint to the point of being humorous.
>
> And while I'm sure the Charles de Gaulle and the HMCS Bonaventure will
> be valuable answers to trivia questions someday, discussing their
> particulars at length only underscores the giant gap between the US
> military and everyone else.
>
> Giant gaps in capabilities, and giant gaps in peoples' perspectives about
> what's impressive, are funny. An example that comes to mind is that scene
> in 'Raiders of the Lost Ark', where an intimidating swordsman with a
> giant blade and flourishing technique is rapidly and casually dispatched
> by Indy and his pistol.
>
> - Gordon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Owen Byrne" <owen@permafrost.net>
> To: "Gordon Mohr" <gojomo@usa.net>; <fork@xent.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: A Brave and Modest Nation
>
>
> > Oh and just in case you're just another clueless American, the primary
> > inspiration for Canadians trumpeting our competence over yours is
because
> > one of your morons killed four of our guys...
> >
> > I have a clueless moron picture I can send you...
> > Owen
> >
> >
> > owen@permafrost.net
> >
> >
> >
> > > Q: Is there anything on earth more hilarious than Canadians and
> > Francophiles
> > > fussing and preening over how wonderful their nations' militaries are?
> > >
> > > A: No.
> > >
> > > - Gordon
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Robert Harley" <harley@argote.ch>
> > > To: <fork@xent.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 5:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: A Brave and Modest Nation
> > >
> > >
> > > > >Canadian soldiers in the past half century have been
> > > > >the greatest peacekeepers on Earth -- in 39 missions on UN
mandates,
> > and six
> > > > >on non-UN peacekeeping duties, from Vietnam to East Timor, from
Sinai
> > to
> > > > >Bosnia.
> > > >
> > > > Hmm... this page lists 40 UN missions for the Irish Defence Forces
and
> > > > a bunch of non-UN ones:
> > > >
> > > >   http://www.military.ie/overseas/missions_list.htm
> > > >
> > > > L8r,
> > > >   Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
> > >
> >
>
>
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