More economics from the trenches

Owen Byrne owen@permafrost.net
Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:20:13 -0300


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Sorry mixing LPNs with Nurse Practitioners. At this point in my life I =
really wish I had employment in a traditionally female field=20
of labor. Everyone is overworked and underpaid.=20
The husband of that nurse I mentioned - he makes minimum wage. I can =
name ten other couples where the wife is=20
on the fast track, and the (often more qualified) husband is =
underemployed. The traditionally underworked/overpaid male occupations =
have all disappeared.=20

Just to keep track again (todays tax day in Canada). The nurses here got =
7% salary increases last year. My income was 14% of=20
what it was the year before.=20

Owen


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Grlygrl201@aol.com=20
  To: owen@permafrost.net ; beberg@mithral.com ; jason@privacyright.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:16 AM
  Subject: Re: More economics from the trenches


  In a message dated 4/30/02 5:44:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, =
owen@permafrost.net writes:



    But governments are now gearing up their "reserve pool of labor" =
policies
    for nurses. Replacing them with nurse-practicioners, using lower =
cost
    administrative staff to take over paperwork duties, etc. I'm sure =
soon
    enough you'll see an H1B program for them.




  hello? don't nurse practitioners get higher salaries?  they can =
prescribe meds.

  "replacing" nurses is not the accurate scenario:  there's been a =
shortage of nurses for over a decade.  more likely is that nurses are =
overworked/underpaid (like teachers)(because nursing, like teaching, was =
*traditionally* a female field of labor) and they are choosing to become =
nurse practioners and physician assistants, with much higher pay scale.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry mixing LPNs with Nurse =
Practitioners. At this=20
point in my life I really wish I had employment in a traditionally =
female field=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of labor. Everyone is overworked and =
underpaid.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The husband of that nurse I mentioned - =
he makes=20
minimum wage. I can name </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ten other =
couples where=20
the wife is </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on the fast track, and the (often more =
qualified)=20
husband is underemployed. The traditionally </FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>underworked/overpaid male occupations have all disappeared. =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just to keep track again (todays tax =
day in=20
Canada). The nurses here got 7% salary increases last year. My income =
was 14% of=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>what it was the year before. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Owen</FONT></DIV>
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  title=3Dbeberg@mithral.com=20
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from the=20
  trenches</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>In a =
message dated=20
  4/30/02 5:44:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:owen@permafrost.net">owen@permafrost.net</A> =
writes:<BR><BR><BR>
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  TYPE=3D"CITE">But governments are now gearing up their "reserve pool =
of labor"=20
    policies<BR>for nurses. Replacing them with nurse-practicioners, =
using lower=20
    cost<BR>administrative staff to take over paperwork duties, etc. I'm =
sure=20
    soon<BR>enough you'll see an H1B program for=20
  them.<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>hello? don't nurse practitioners get =
higher=20
  salaries?&nbsp; they can prescribe meds.<BR><BR>"replacing" nurses is =
not the=20
  accurate scenario:&nbsp; there's been a shortage of nurses for over a=20
  decade.&nbsp; more likely is that nurses are overworked/underpaid =
(like=20
  teachers)(