Fw: Plotting the revival of Ricochet

James Hong jhong@xmethods.net
Wed, 20 Feb 2002 03:23:58 -0800


ricochet wasn't any faster. At least the unit I had..

cheers,
james
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Masnick" <mike@techdirt.com>
To: <fork@xent.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Plotting the revival of Ricochet


> Ah, well, I wouldn't quite believe that.  At best, you're talking about
> Verizon's bogus "3G" launch which offers speeds of "up to" 144k, when even
> they'll admit (much more quietly) that your more likely to hit about 40k.
> Most people I know who have tried it said they're lucky to break 20k.
> Verizon (and Sprint when they get around to it) are being very silly in
> calling this a 3G launch.
>
> Besides, the pricing is beyond ridiculous.
>
> So, while the carriers will (hopefully, maybe?) eventually get there,
> they're not anywhere close yet.
>
>  -Mike
>
> At 01:22 AM 2/20/02 -0800, James Hong wrote:
> >Plus.. mobile carriers are now offering equivalent speed internet access
on
> >their networks...
> >
> >cheers,
> >james
> >HOTorNOT.com
> >
> >
> >
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> >From: "Mike Masnick" <mike@techdirt.com>
> >To: "FoRK (E-mail)" <fork@xent.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:22 AM
> >Subject: Re: Fw: Plotting the revival of Ricochet
> >
> >
> >> Seems to me like they're making different mistakes this time around.
For
> >> years I begged, pleaded, and yelled at folks at Metricom to lower their
> >> prices and to compete with broadband providers like cable modems and
DSL.
> >> Metricom told me that I just didn't understand their market.
> >>
> >> Now, these new guys are lowering their prices, but they're saying that
> >they
> >> have no interest in the "mobile" market.  They're making a mistake in
the
> >> other direction - which is made worse by other technologies.  The rise
of
> >> WiFi makes it unlikely that I'll go back to ever using my Ricochet,
unless
> >> they had widespread coverage (which isn't in their plans).  They lost
> >their
> >> chance in not keeping the network alive so they could turn back on the
> >> widespread coverage in the cities they already had built out.
> >>
> >> When there weren't too many WiFi hotspots Ricochet was totally worth it
> >for
> >> me.  But now, they're setting up Ricochet like WiFi with small random
> >> hotspots (like Denver's Mile High Stadium:
> >> http://news.com.com/2100-1033-840785.html) - except it's slower and not
as
> >> reliable.
> >>
> >> Doesn't sound worth it to me.  I think Ricochet has missed their
chance.
> >>
> >>  -Mike
> >>
> >> At 12:01 AM 2/20/02 -0800, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:
> >> >If this was FoRKed, I missed it...
> >> >
> >> >http://news.com.com/2009-1082-827946.html
> >> >
> >> >"Can Ricochet, a high-speed wireless Internet service that collapsed
in
> >last
> >> >year's dot-com implosion, stage a Lazarus-like comeback?
> >> >
> >> >"That's what entrepreneur Mort Aaronson has in mind. Aaronson's
> >Denver-based
> >> >company, Aerie Networks, paid less than a penny on the dollar when it
> >bought
> >> >the remains of Metricom, which operated Ricochet."
> >> >
> >> >[...]
> >> >
> >> >[Q] How much will the Ricochet service cost?
> >> >[A] The way we are going to market this will be different. Broadband
> >access,
> >> >which is what this product is, has become a utility, like gas and
> >electric.
> >> >Connectivity to a computer is becoming a necessity. Given that, you
have
> >to
> >> >price it appropriately; $69 dollars (the price of the old Ricochet
> >> >service)--well, you already saw the results of that. You'll see us
> >between
> >> >$39.99 and $49.95. We're testing price points now. Before the
bankruptcy,
> >> >Metricom did a trial in San Diego; the price was at $49.95 and it drew
> >1,600
> >> >customers. The price point for the modem will be under $100. The
product
> >> >will still be called Ricochet.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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> >
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