ProAntiism RE: 'Bomb Texas' The psychological roots of anti-Americanism

Al Diablito
Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:31:38 -0500

No, what you do is point the UN inspections team to where your intelligence 
shows there are weapons programs, prove you're not a fucking liar like 
everyone suspects, broadcast this finding to the whole world, walk into the 
UN with a big, shit-eating, "I told you so, pacifists" grin, get your UN 
vote for war, and move on in with the backing of much of the world. But 
there are no WMD's, they are lying, so that strategy won't work. So, they'll 
go with your plan. They are lying to you enough, Mr. Mohr, don't lie to 

>From: "Gordon Mohr" <>
>To: <>
>Subject: Re: ProAntiism RE: 'Bomb Texas' The psychological roots of 
>Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:38:18 -0800
>TomWhore writes:
> > Take this last point, for instance. First, we have PROOF that Husane is 
> > threat, proof enough to start the engines of war. Then, when the UN asks
> > for that proof in order to give aid to the cause, inspecters are sent 
> > who find...well..pretty much nothing.
>Well, let's role-play for a second.
>Let's say I'm the US leadership and I do have proof of some nasty
>CBW or nuclear work in Iraq. But I also know that there's even more
>such work that I don't know about; maybe I estimate that I know about
>25% of the work.
>If I reveal this early, lead the inspectors to it before I'm ready
>to do the whole war deal, then the situation we have is...
>   - Iraqi Baathists say, "oops, you caught us again, we'll get
>     rid of that stuff, sorry, no need for war here, move along"
>   - Squeamish antiwar types will say, "look! inspections (backed
>     by spying and massive threats) can work, let's do this for
>     another few decades, no need for war here, move along"
>   - 75% of the Iraqi programs remain in operation, and yet
>     again, there's no real penalty for discovery except losing
>     just what was discovered, and the best chance in a decade
>     to end the Baathist threat will have passed
>That'd be an awful outcome.
>Instead, I'd want to sandbag the best evidence. Wait until all
>the pieces were in place to use the evidence to solve the problem
>once and for all. Any "proof" would only be shared immediately
>before an all-out effort, probably an all-out attack, to depose
>the Baath regime.
>  - Gordon

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