Jeff, Elias, Please Clarify (was Re: [SPORK] Something I REALLY want John Hall to Try To Understand)
Wed, 26 Mar 2003 23:27:05 -0600
On Wednesday, Mar 26, 2003, at 17:33 US/Central, S. Alexander Jacobson
> 3. Making the Case
> Since you apppear to believe that the actual
> action is moral, you account for the failure of
> other countries to support as a failure by this
> administration to "make the case."
twisty chain of entailment, here:
> You believe
> that the leadership of France, Germany, Russia,
> and China just have less information than you do
> about the situation in Iraq and if they were as
> informed as you are, they would come around and
> support regime change.
That is, IMHO: (a) I think regime change is a gross good, but worry
that it is not a net good done this way at this time. (b) I'm not
sure why my opinion on regime change in principle matters; rather I'm
concerned about pragmatics and observable causes / forecastable
effects. I think most of the arguments on this from moral grounds, in
either direction, are not really useful and are mostly full of shit.
(c) I do believe we've failed to make the case. (d) I think France,
Germany, Russia, China, and in general the rest of the 3/4 of the
world's nations that have not signed onto our "Press Release of the
Willing" are generally better informed than I am, and that they've come
to the same conclusions I have with even better reasons for doing so.