Canada, stereotypes, and the ugly truth?

Ian Andrew Bell fork at
Wed Dec 3 13:57:00 PST 2003

Well I don't know about that, either... my point was simply that while 
political discourse may be alive and well (and I'm not so sure about 
that, even) on this mailing list, it is fundamentally unhealthy in the 
US... and the reason is quite simply intolerance.

Canada is a nation where tolerance is a fundamental value and, with 
exceptions, we introduce into law those acts which represent that 
intolerance with greater frequency.  We are also able to argue without 
resorting to the kind of verbal thuggery that I hear on NPR and the 
O'Reilly Factor.

America's supposed "distinctive moral consciousness" is an immediate 
value judgment.  And I would suspect that that supposed higher moral 
ground has been fortified by a puritanical, christian influence that is 
not self-reflective and makes no allowances for the amazing society 
that is evolving within it.

It has yielded a nation composed of many millions of vociferous, 
self-righteous, intolerant, and exclusionary people.  If you're 
allowing that to happen around you, you're part of the problem -- no 
matter how tolerant you yourself might be.  And if you vote people into 
power, perhaps for other reasons such as lower taxes or better interest 
rates, that exemplify this intolerance (as your leader uncontestedly 
does) then you only have yourselves to blame.

That's democracy.


detox your inbox.

On 3-Dec-03, at 11:46 AM, jbone at wrote:

> Per Ian / Joe's riff, Joe sez:
> > These are ridiculous stereotypes.
> As David Cronenberg - a *Canadian* filmmaker, I might add - said:
> "All stereotypes turn out to be true. This is a horrifying thing about 
> life. All those things you fought against as a youth: you begin to 
> realize they're stereotypes because they're true."
> --
> jb
> "I am not a target market!"
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