[FoRK] Hangman II: Q&A
jbone at place.org
jbone at place.org
Wed Mar 17 11:41:46 PST 2004
> 1) lying requires intent to deceive
Did I, in the message you were responding to, assert that these
represented lies? No.
Does it matter whether the "intent" was to deceive or whether we were
just massively wrong? No.
> 2) Albright said that there was no doubt that Iraq had WMD before the
Does it matter what *previous* administrations thought about all this?
Does it matter what Albright thought about the situation immediately
pre-Babylon '03? No.
> 3) Your hypocrisy is that when Bush I, and Clinton stated Iraq had
Does Greg understand the definition of "hypocrisy?" No.
(To dig in a bit on this: Greg, those people did not take the action
we took. It is the decision to take action --- the overconfidence ---
that is at issue. Holding someone that takes action on the basis of a
belief to a higher standard than those who hold the same belief but
take lesser or no action is not hypocrisy.)
( A further issue is the issue of context; it's not static. What was
true (or believed to be true) at some point in the past is not
necessarily true today nor does such previous information or belief
justify its continuity into the present. A good example of this is as
follows: it is absolutely certain that SH possessed certain WMDs in
the past. It is not a logical conclusion to assume that because that
is true, he must therefore still possess those same WMDs. However in
many cases, we followed precisely that kind of faulty reasoning.)
> 5) As always when pressed, you distance yourself from the content
> making yourself a cheap shot artist who lacks the skills to
> legitimately debate the issues.
Is it my intent to debate this "issue" with you? No.
> 6) Don't project your ignorance on me.
Am I projecting my ignorance on you? No.
Are you projecting your mistaken belief about my intentions on me? Yes.
Am I reflecting your lack of reading comprehension and communication
skills back at you? Yes.
I'm hopeful that we can take the meta-debate offline, Greg. No
particular point in further urination.
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