[FoRK] All The Rope II: Noose of Words

Lucas Gonze lgonze at panix.com
Wed Mar 17 14:10:25 PST 2004

The Bush administration said, unambiguously, that there was an imminent 
threat.  The administration had plenty of contrary evidence and no 
supporting evidence.  The administration sabotaged providers of 
contrary evidence (Joe Wilson) and rewarded providers of supporting 
evidence (Chalibi), going so far as to create a new intelligence 
apparatus in the defense department to be sure of ideologically correct 

That's lying, and it's willful.

On Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004, at 16:48 America/New_York, Owen Byrne wrote:

> Gregory Alan Bolcer wrote:
>> I think the issue has to be precise.  Lying about what exactly?  The 
>> lying
>> charge can be made that the Bush administration lied about the reasons
>> why they went to war in Iraq.   I personally think they did the right
>> thing for the wrong reasons.  When Jeff starts talking about
>> they lied about whether or not Iraq had WMDs--as if they knew they
>> didn't, well, even Hans Blix, Kofi Annan, and Jaques Chirac wouldn't
>> even agree with that statement before the war.   It's not my intention
>> to browbeat, I just cant' understand how someone can retroactively
>> go back and re-assign maliscious intent to a policy that is 
>> indistinguishable
>> from every other policy with the exception that it's being enacted by
>> a new administration.  So, the big lie involved the complicity of 
>> Blix,
>> Chirac, Annan, the UN, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., the entire US
>> military, and the entire US intelligence?   It seems just a little 
>> unbelievable to me.  Greg
> Its like a rapist's lament. If she really didn't want to be fucked, 
> why didn't she fight back more? She must
> have really wanted it.
> Owen
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