[FoRK] RE: Flatland or Sphereland?

Gregory Alan Bolcer gbolcer at endeavors.com
Sun Mar 21 10:10:47 PST 2004

Russell, I think you are confusing a policy defender and a Bush
defender.  Nowhere have I ever defended Bush.   Nowhere
have I ever said anything that labeled me as a neocon either, so
I see your arguments as strawmen.  I find it amazing that
you hold such a low opinion of the intelligence of the US
congress and US public that they all can easily be fooled by 
one small out of context piece of intel that turned out to be false.  
Congress wasn't misled.  Members claiming they were are projecting 
blame for their own shortcomings. 
What's more interesting is the whole anti-war political process. 
Arguements of expedience are extensively poll tested with
small swing groups, trial balloons are floated, and unfounded
rewritten criticisms are repeated no matter how much they are
based on historical re-writing all in the concerted effort
to change the fact that some political minority lost the
debate on the Iraq war and is doing anything possible to
retroactively invalidate the decision.  Once you understand
that fact, you can separate things into two camps: legitimate
criticisms and illegitimate criticisms.  There's this little thing called 
congressional record that you can't really spin.  Changing the
subject to ideologue bashing doesn't help your case either.  It's
the sore-losers of the debate that are trying to change the status quo.  

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: fork-bounces at xent.com on behalf of Russell Turpin 
	Sent: Sun 3/21/2004 9:18 AM 
	To: fork at xent.com 
	Subject: YAWE (was: [FoRK] It just doesn't get any clearer than this..)

	Bush's defenders are so prolific in creating post hoc
	explanations for the war in Iraq, that it is high time
	to give these their own acronym: Yet Another War
	Explanation. Here is Gregory Alan Bolcer's (latest)
	>The intelligence goes like this.  In 1998 after the
	>monitoring stopped, our intelligence agencies (all 17 or 18 of them) came
	>to consensus that if Iraq were left to its own devices, then they would be
	>able to develop all types of WMD including a nuclear bomb within the next
	>10 years.   1998 + 4 is 40% of the way there.  The growing consensus in
	>intelligence across all of these agencies was that
	>the 9-11 attack would embolden other rogue groups and nations to jump like
	>chimps on a gorilla and that a selective pre-emptive strategy would be
	>prudent to keep from sinking into a deteriorating
	>world security where terrorism was the norm.   Despite a few dissenting
	>agencies, the consensus was running about 60% for dramatic action. ..
	The neocons who are desparate to defend the war
	in Iraq are making one of two mistakes. On the one
	hand, it's in the past.  All their fretting and retrospective
	hemming and hawing makes them look as if the act
	itself has turned them into a bunch of indecisive
	milquetoasts, like the accountant who commits murder
	and then has no idea what to do about the body. The
	deed has been done. The task now is to make the
	most of it.
	On the other hand, to the issue of Bush's duty and
	honor, the ONLY explanation that matters is the
	one he gave to Congress. Like all the other post hoc
	YAWEs, Bolcer's departs from that in important ways.
	Yes, other explanations are more accurate, more
	legitimate, more truthful. That's precisely the point.
	>I wanted you to see what real leadership is..
	No President can exercise real leadership by misleading
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