[FoRK] Nerve

Gregory Alan Bolcer gbolcer at endeavors.com
Sat May 1 18:46:19 PDT 2004


They can have 100% control of fallujah in under 48 hours.   It's
politics that's holding it back.   If you say a thousand or so
means less than 60--the majorit of which have been
used as collaborators and human shields, then you're gonna run outta numbers. 
 
Greg

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	How else can I describe it. What F*cking nerve.
	
	> Abizaid said a central figure in the insurgency in Fallujah is
	> Jordanian extremist Abu Musab Zarqawi who has been linked with al-Qaida.
	> "I can't tell you that he's there now, but I can tell you that he has
	> personally been responsible for the killing of thousands of innocent
	> Iraqi citizens," Abizaid said
	
	As in "We dropped bombs on every neighbourhood in Fallujah trying to
	kill this guy. A thousand or so Iraqis died. "Collateral Damage"
	Owen
	
	>
	> U.S. commander: Send 'more Muslim troops'
	>
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	>
	> April 30, 2004 | WASHINGTON (AP) -- The top U.S. military commander in
	> the Persian Gulf area said Friday he needs no more American troops in
	> Iraq, but he pointedly urged Muslim nations to send forces.
	>
	> Gen. John Abizaid, chief of the U.S. Central Command, also disclosed
	> that about a dozen Iraqi security battalions, which failed to perform
	> in recent weeks of anti-occupation violence in central and
	> south-central Iraq, are being reorganized and retrained. As a result,
	> he said, those units will not be ready for any major challenges until
	> at least November, a delay of two months from previous schedules.
	>
	>
	> In a video teleconference with reporters at the Pentagon, Abizaid said
	> from his Persian Gulf headquarters that despite a rising death toll
	> and other recent setbacks he remains confident that the U.S.-led
	> military coalition in Iraq will bring stability.
	>
	> He urged the American public to be patient and to understand that
	> results will come slowly.
	>
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	>
	> "We are not in any military danger of losing control of the
	> situation," he said.
	>
	> Asked about the debate in the United States over whether more American
	> troops are needed in Iraq, Abizaid said if the security situation
	> should deteriorate further he would not hesitate to ask for more. For
	> now, he said, he is satisfied that the 138,000 troops he has are enough.
	>
	> "I do favor the inclusion of more international troops, especially
	> more Muslim troops," he said. "For example, Morocco, Pakistan, Tunisia
	> – they all have very capable and very professional forces that could
	> be added to the stability equation" once Iraq regains its political
	> sovereignty. The target date for the partial turnover of power to an
	> interim Iraqi government is June 30.
	>
	> The key to progress in Iraq, he said, is getting more Iraqis to defend
	> their country.
	>
	> "I think Iraqis will second me on this: This needs to be less of an
	> American occupation and more of an international military activity
	> that includes Iraqis, international forces and Americans," he said.
	>
	> The Bush administration has been unable so far to persuade more
	> countries to send troops to Iraq, and the surging violence and
	> mounting death toll have further complicated the matter. Spain, the
	> Dominican Republic and Honduras are pulling their troops out.
	> Bulgarian President Georgi Parvanov said this week that his country's
	> contingent, which is operating in the southern Iraqi city of Karbala,
	> has found itself in "a real war it was not prepared for."
	>
	> Abizaid cautioned against expecting quick results from a new
	> arrangement with Iraqis to quell violence in the besieged city of
	> Fallujah, and a major battle for Fallujah may not be avoidable.
	>
	> He described the a "step-by-step effort" to train an Iraqi force for
	> Fallujah, which others said is being called the Fallujah Brigade,
	> under leadership of former senior officers of deposed President Saddam
	> Hussein's army.
	>
	> The outcome will depend on the actions of the insurgents inside the
	> city, he said.
	>
	> "It may be necessary to have a strong fight in there," he said, if the
	> insurgents don't cooperate, he said.
	>
	> Problems have been festering for months in Fallujah and escalated
	> after the March 31 killing and mutilation of four American private
	> contractors. Abizaid saw evidence of it when he visited there in
	> mid-February and his party came under attack by rocket-propelled
	> grenades and small arms fire.
	>
	> He said Friday that eventually the fate of Fallujah will rest with the
	> Iraqis.
	>
	> "While it is difficult for them to stand up to some of the challenges
	> and the intimidation of former regime elements, it is, nevertheless,
	> important for all of us to understand that ultimately the battle for
	> Iraq will be won by Iraqis," he said.
	>
	> Abizaid said a central figure in the insurgency in Fallujah is
	> Jordanian extremist Abu Musab Zarqawi who has been linked with al-Qaida.
	>
	> "I can't tell you that he's there now, but I can tell you that he has
	> personally been responsible for the killing of thousands of innocent
	> Iraqi citizens," Abizaid said.
	>
	> Separately, his operations chief, Maj. Gen. John Sattler said, told
	> reporters that the Marines in Iraq recently received 14 extra battle
	> tanks and the Army's 1st Infantry Division has received 23 of the 28
	> extra tanks it requested.
	>
	
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