[FoRK] Keeping it under wraps till November 3.

Ian Andrew Bell (FoRK) fork at ianbell.com
Mon Aug 2 21:13:15 PDT 2004


The young age of the victims in this case is only ancillary to (and, 
really serves only to heighten the obscenity of) the issue, which is 
the torture of prisoners that continues long past early revelations of 

Whether aged 14 or 44, a prisoner who's in a jail cell being routinely 
sodomized by some poorly-trained, apparently unsupervised ex-Marine 
"contractor" is NOT a threat to anyone.

They only pick up guns because they think they're defending their 
homeland against Western invaders.  Tales (fuck tales... Photos and 
Video) of prison torture committed by the occupying army doesn't do 
much to convince the average combatant that he's misguided.


On 2-Aug-04, at 9:05 PM, J.Andrew Rogers wrote:

> On Aug 2, 2004, at 7:46 PM, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:
>> Well, certainly there's no problem demonstrating that a 14 year old 
>> can
>> kill you as dead as a 21 year old with an AK-47 or any other firearm,
>> assuming of course that their aim is as good as they are close to you.
> I had a roommate in college who's father was assassinated by a 12 year 
> old.  Not random violence but a targeted hit, and apparently not 
> entirely unexpected as the father was a powerful political figure and 
> had a tendency to piss off a lot of people (as it was told to me).  
> This happened somewhere in India.
> Not entirely related to the subject at hand, but the concept of 
> "children" as we normally think of it is only loosely correlated with 
> age when applied to the world at large.  Hell, you still have people 
> getting married at 14-15 in some corners of the US.

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