[FoRK] Shooting dice with Zogby, or, Poll-less pollstering

Lorin Rivers lrivers at gmail.com
Thu Nov 4 08:01:31 PST 2004


Interesting.


On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 10:21:55 -0500, Jeff Bone <jbone at place.org> wrote:
> 
> What does this tell us?  I dunno.  At a minimum it should make us all
> question the validity of any polling technique.  With a nation as
> perfectly polarized as ours, and with the margins as narrow as they
> are, it should make us question whether any sample set much smaller
> than "everybody" is in any way representative.

Polls are crap. People lie, they say what they think they ought to
say, but don't actually act that way.

> It should also make us question the meaning of the popular vote victory
> margin;  we should be cautious what conclusions we draw from that.

Bush is thinking "landslide".

> Lastly:  I'm sick of hearing about the "values" issue.  The same
> freakin' talking heads can on the one hand lament how badly astray they
> were lead early in the night by the exit polls and then, immediately,
> turn around and start talking about how the exit polls said "values"
> were a deciding factor...  now look:  either the polls were meaningful
> or they weren't.  Make up your minds, pundits!  ;-)

 When you get down to it, this election WAS about moral values (i.e.,
hating fags).


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