[FoRK] U.S. Undocumented Immigrant Numbers Surge

Luis Villa luis.villa at gmail.com
Mon Mar 21 17:16:42 PST 2005

Hey, now, Beberg really wants to scrub toilets in Walmarts and work
the fields in Central Cali. If that's what he wants, let him...
certainly he'd have less time on computers to irritate the rest of us.

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:14:12 -0500, Damien Morton <fork at bitfurnace.com> wrote:
> Adam L Beberg wrote:
> > Lucas Gonze wrote on 3/21/2005 1:55 PM:
> >
> >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Adam L Beberg wrote:
> >>
> >> Who's them?  Aren't you them just as much as they are?
> >>
> >> You're not indigenous, right?
> >
> > But the difference is, my ancestors did it legally via Ellis Island. I'm
> > pro-immigration, but against open borders. There is a HUGE difference.
> > Let anyone with a degree or other mad skillz in I say. But keep the 3rd
> > world workers, and more importantly those crappy jobs, pollution, and
> > crime, elsewhere.
> Umm, ignoring for a moment your definition if "indigenous" as anyone who
> can trace a line back to any given white settler in the last few hundred
> years.
> Half the great industrialists of the last century had neither degree nor
>   measurable "mad skillz", and were as likely as not immigrants or the
> children thereof.
> What, exactly, is the difference between legal and illegal economic
> immigration, apart from the legal angle?
> Economic osmosis is a powerfull and easily understandable force. A force
> of nature, you might say.
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