[FoRK] Fwd: wallace-l: QOW: stiff upper lip edition

Joe Barrera joe
Fri Jul 8 16:08:19 PDT 2005

Forwarded without comment. Just read it.

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Subject: 	wallace-l: QOW: stiff upper lip edition
Date: 	Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:08:58 -0400
From: 	Ken Smoker <ksmoker at gmail.com>
Reply-To: 	Ken Smoker <ksmoker at gmail.com>
To: 	wallace-l <wallace-l at waste.org>

Ryan said something about the inane blather on the US news networks
re: the London bombing. I also noticed yesterday the stark contrast
between the shrillness of the morning news programs and the calm,
determined attitude of the BBC radio hosts and interviewees that I
listened to after arriving at work.

Since this has been a week of light wallace-l traffic and as a tribute
to our British friends, here are some quotes stolen from Andrew
Sullivan's blog. These are mostly taken from emails that Sullivan has
received and posted to his site over the past 24-36 hours.


No one has suggested that we stop playing cricket because of events in
London. No one has said, "Of course this game fades into
insignificance compared to events in the real world." Nor has anyone
offered up the inane idea that if we stop playing cricket the
terrorists will have won. The idea of stopping the game appears not to
have occurred to anyone, which I think is wonderful and yet another
example of the British stoicism of which you write. It makes me
realize how much I've missed London.


Work's over but there's little chance of getting home right now. Most
of us are just going to go to the pub until the traffic has died down.
It's not callousness or indifference to carry on as normal, it's quiet


The fight against Islamic fundamentalism became clearer. Anybody who
tells you these bombers are fighting for the rights of Muslims in
Iraq, occupied Palestine or Chechnya should look at the places they
chose to bomb. Aldgate? The poorest and most Muslim part of the
country. Edgware Road? The centre of Muslim and Arab life in London
and, arguably, Europe. Does anybody need greater evidence that these
Islamic fundamentalists despise Muslims who choose to live in free
societies, and they would enslave Muslims everywhere if they were
given the opportunity?


What the fuck do you think you're doing? This is London. We've dealt
with your sort before. You don't try and pull this on us.

Do you have any idea how many times our city has been attacked?
Whatever you're trying to do, it's not going to work.

All you've done is end some of our lives, and ruin some more. How is
that going to help you? You don't get rewarded for this kind of crap.

And if, as your MO indicates, you're an al-Qaeda group, then you're
out of your tiny minds. Because if this is a message to Tony Blair,
we've got news for you. We don't much like our government ourselves,
or what they do in our name. But, listen very clearly. We'll deal with
that ourselves. We're London, and we've got our own way of doing
things, and it doesn't involve tossing bombs around where innocent
people are going about their lives.

And that's because we're better than you. Everyone is better than you.
Our city works. We rather like it. And we're going to go about our
lives. We're going to take care of the lives you ruined. And then
we're going to work. And we're going down the pub.

So you can pack up your bombs, put them in your arseholes, and get the
fuck out of our city.

- London News Review


I have a prediction to make, that tomorrow we'll find out whether
Britons are, still, in fact, Britons. Many years ago I was working in
The City and there were two events that made travel into work almost

The first was a series of storms that brought down power lines,
blocked train routes and so on. Not surprisingly, the place was empty
the next day. Why bother to struggle through?

The other event was an IRA bomb which caused massive damage and loss
of life. Trains were disrupted, travel to work the next day was
horribly difficult and yet there were more people at work than on a
normal day. There was no co-ordination to this, no instructions went
out, but it appeared that people were crawling off their sick beds in
order to be there at work the next day, thrusting their mewling and
pewling infants into the arms of anyone at all so that they could be

Yes, we'll take an excuse for a day off, throw a sickie. But you
threaten us, try to kill us? Kill and injure some of us?

Fuck you, sunshine.

We'll not be having that.

No grand demonstrations, few warlike chants, a desire for revenge, of
course, but the reaction of the average man and woman in the street?
Yes, you've tried it, now bugger off. We're not scared, no, you wont
change us. Even if we are scared, you can still bugger off.
- Tim Worstall, Brit blogger.


I tell you what, if this is an "Islamic" terrorist attack, they're
doing a piss-poor job. The pubs are all packed out, people sipping
their pints happily, all a tad pissed off, but basically fine with it.
Nice one, Al Quaeda - you profess to be from a teetotal religion, and
you've given the pub trade a massive mid-week boost.


Went to the pub at lunchtime to see the latest new on events in
London. Three young guys were sitting directly in front of the TV as
details of a major terrorist attack on London were emerging all three
avidly reading the Sun's account of the Steven Gerard/Liverpool

[Sullivan comments: That's a reference to a soccer story. Do not
mistake this attitude for indifference. It's a very English form of



Sweet dreams and flying machines
In pieces on the ground

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