[FoRK] Re: [silk] "Don't be evil"
Sat Sep 3 14:10:31 PDT 2005
I would like to point this out to all the idealists / non-conspiracy-
theorists in the audience:
Yes, at its core revenue principles, Google is an advertising
company. Can you think of a *less obtrusive* and *less manipulative*
advertising operation, anywhere, in any media, on this planet, today?
That's not to say that there is not a SERIOUS meme-engineering meme-
propagation ideology-shifting capacity problem that needs to be
considered. But ask yourself: does the memeset that GOOG is
currently steering interfere with your needs? If not, when it does
--- how do you compete? Is the propensity for "evil" worthy of
agitating against today --- and if so, how? How do we, as humans
(and trans- or post-humans, for that matter) "innoculate" ourselves
against memes that work for others, or even for ourselves in the
short-term but which are negative in the long-term?
I don't have answers to these questions, but I find them compelling
--- and unnerving --- in the same way that I found the question of
"if we enable people to instantly message each other, over mobile
devices, and non-mobile devices?" compelling and unnerving at Active
Paper and Activerse.
Tradeoffs. It's the root dilemma of any significantly, socially
important engineering project. I will risk saying: Oppenheimer
On Sep 3, 2005, at 1:45 AM, Abhishek Hazra wrote:
> >>> It's good to know that someone hates Google even more than I do.
> Don't know about hate , but people are definitely responding
> negatively/critically to Google's apparent/publicized ubiquity and
> its big-market Microsoft dreams. So you would be in a community. :-)
> Till you guys put up your own blog, (in case you haven't put up one
> already) here is one gem from the hactivist-artist extraordinaire,
> Hans Bernhard: GWEI - Google Will Eat Itself
> "We generate money by serving Google text advertisments on
> GWEI.org. With this money we buy Google shares. We buy Google via
> their own advertisment! Google eats itself - but in the end we'll
> own it! By establishing this model we deconstruct the new global
> advertisment mechanisms by rendering them into a surreal click-
> based economic model. We inject a social virus." (From the GWEI
> website (http://www.gwei.org/gwei/)
> _._"Does the Frog know it has a Latin Name?"_._
> On 9/3/05, Jeff Bone <jbone at place.org> wrote:
> Really, Joe.
> I thought *I* was the extremist, here.
> Google *might become* evil --- and is certainly in position for same
> --- but I'm really not certain that their minor transgressions to
> date single them out for this kind of treatment.
> On Sep 3, 2005, at 1:10 AM, Joe Barrera wrote:
> > Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> >> http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/
> > It's good to know that someone hates Google even more than I do.
> > - Joe
> > --
> > Come follow me, out of dark obscurity
> > Follow my torch, pilgrims on the double, march!
> > Through meadows and seas, abbatoirs and libraries
> > The pilgrims increase, boasting they are led by peace
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