[FoRK] Why AJAX?

Damien Morton fork
Mon Oct 10 21:22:54 PDT 2005


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8532502869609931649

anyone else feel like this when taking about AJAX?


Reza B'Far wrote:
> Oopss... I meant Gavin... brain freeze reading off the top...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reza B'Far [mailto:reza at voicegenesis.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:14 PM
> To: Gavin Thomas Nicol; Fork at Xent.Com
> Subject: RE: [FoRK] Why AJAX?
> 
> 
> Hi Thomas:
> 
> To me, the biggest deal is this:
> 
> Goodbye complicated MVC based framework with declarative crapolla all over
> them.  Hello PAC.  I always preferred PAC over MVC for separation of
> concerns... but there really was no way of implementing PAC cleanly without
> XMLHttpRequest.  It used to be that a user transaction meant a screen
> refresh which is ugly, ugly, ugly ...
> 
> There are LOTS of reasons to use AJAX, but the top two for me are:
> 
> 1)  Ability to create far richer user interfaces by hiding server-side
> transactions.
> 2)  Ability to have truely isolated UI components without declarative crap
> (XML config files, etc.) that you can put together to make new components
> (more PAC like than MVC like).
> 
> Reza B'Far
> Voice Genesis, Inc.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fork-bounces at xent.com [mailto:fork-bounces at xent.com]On Behalf Of
> Gavin Thomas Nicol
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 8:52 PM
> To: Com Fork at Xent.
> Subject: [FoRK] Why AJAX?
> 
> 
> I've heard so much AJAX meme recently that I feel like I must be
> missing something... isn't it just the stuff we've all been doing for
> years? I mean, I've been sending XML and JavaScript back and forth
> using hidden frames for ages... and hacking DOM/CSS as well. I guess
> the new XMLHttpRequest stuff makes it a wee bit easier, but every
> time I turn a corner I hear "must do AJAX."...
> 
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