Fwd: Re: [FoRK] avian flu/home grown/PastFutureTense/retraction

Stephen D. Williams sdw
Fri Oct 14 15:15:47 PDT 2005

If infection starts elsewhere, lock everyone in the house and 
telecommute for weeks until A) food runs out and B) the infection has 
passed.  Setup safe food pickups.

Diseases thrive on contact.  Isolation starves the cycle.  Quarantine 
the well along with the sick.
Schools should assign homework for the next month via their web sites, 
close, and manage communication between teachers and students.  This 
ought to be done now when a certain threshold is reached.

In recent years I've taken to calling schools "disease collection and 
trading points".  Parents get sick almost exclusively because of what 
their children bring home, and a large percentage of other adult illness 
is probably a hop or two removed from that (working with parents).

It's possible that the year-round school style where you have a couple 
weeks off periodically might tend to break mini-epidemics.  This would 
be an interesting study.


Luis Villa wrote:

>On 10/14/05, Kevin Elliott <k-elliott at wiu.edu> wrote:
>>At 14:31 -0400  on  10/14/05, Luis Villa wrote:
>>>* the problem that caused the most deaths in 1918 was not poor immune
>>>system response; it was an immune system response so overwhelmingly
>>>aggressive that while attacking the virus it coincidentally destroyed
>>>the lungs. That's why more young adults died than old and children.
>>Interesting.  Wouldn't life support still allow sustained life in
>>this situation?  I assume lung function is compromised but still
>>functional.  The problem is an inability for the lungs to pull in
>>sufficient Oxygen per breathe.  How would a patient respond to being
>>put on Oxygen?
>>>* in an actual epidemic anything approaching the scale of the one we
>>>saw in 1918, only the tiniest percentage will actually recieve any
>>>medical care at all. All modern american hospitals run as close to
>>>capacity as possible- any unused capacity (aka 'buffer for unusual
>>>emergencies') is actively hunted down, because empty beds cost money.
>>>If the flu comes again, modern medical treatment won't matter because
>>>the vast majority will get ill and die or recover before ever so much
>>>as seeing a doctor. (They'll all be dying too, which won't help.)
>>Strongly disagree.  I simply don't see it going down this way.
>>Capacity is easy to create- you throw people who don't HAVE to be
>>their out.  You set up tents in the parking lot.  You ration
>>doctor/nurse time aggressively.  You bring in outside assistance.
>Like I said, go read the book. Your limited imagination is failing to
>grasp the magnitude of the problem.
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