Email Clients (Was Re: [FoRK] Tell Me, Oh Mages...)

Stephen D. Williams sdw
Thu Oct 27 23:55:11 PDT 2005

It must be a function of market share: whatever LookOut! isn't getting, 
Thunderbird must be picking up to a large extent.

I have been using Netscape / Mozilla mail / Thunderbird + Imap4 since I 
switched from Pine in 1995 or so.
Sorry I don't have any other significant opinions, but I've been 
(mostly) very happy.

I have friends who get very hung up on very particular features of 
LookOut! and won't switch if everything isn't the same or better for all 
of those features.  I just need a straightforward email client that can 
scale and do heavy lifting without corrupting the world.  I actually 
don't want my email client to do internal, proprietary calendaring, 
group calendaring should be done via a web application.  If I want to 
share information, I'll use a Wiki.  Etc.  I've even found that the 
opportunistic local directory (i.e. Thunderbird), based on people I've 
sent mail to or received mail from, is better and less headache than a 
directory server.

I need to handle 30MB+ email messages, 50,000+ message folders, 1200+ 
folders per server, and 16GB+ total mailstore with efficient usage of 
Imap4.  Oh, and don't EVER execute anything from an email message or in 
any way compromise my system.  (That has always ruled LookOut! out for me.)


Ian Andrew Bell (FoRK) wrote:
> I can't believe that with all this horsepower and all the brainpower 
> spent using email in this day and age that the best suggestion I get 
> is ThunderBird.
> Sad that the forces of market competition have conspired to deliver XP 
> users pretty much no viable options for managing their email.
> -Ian.
> On 26-Oct-05, at 12:44 PM, Adam L Beberg wrote:
>> Ian Andrew Bell (FoRK) wrote on 10/25/2005 9:38 PM:
>>> I'm going to have to send the PowerBook in for Warranty service 
>>> which  means living without the thing for two weeks.
>>> This means I will have to use (gag!) XP as my primary means of  
>>> communication for longer than I would ordinarily recommend to the  
>>> faint-hearted.  I need to find an email client and since you folks  
>>> read so much of mine you must have very powerful email tools indeed.
>>> There are two, no three, no four caveats:
>>> 1)    Must support IMAP.  How could any mail client NOT support 
>>> IMAP  in this day & age?
>>> 2)    Must NOT be called "Outlook", "Outlook Express", or "MS Mail"
>>> 3)    Must spell-check on the fly which, I will admit, I have 
>>> gotten  used to in
>>> 4)    Must not dump attachments in yer frickin' mail folder like  
>>> stupid Eudora does, overwriting & renaming duplicates
>>> (Not that I EVER spell stuph incorrektly, mind you).
>>> ideally, it would be beautiful, or minimal.  I have been using  
>>> Thunderbird on XP but Spell-Check-On-Send is SO 1994 and couldn't  
>>> possibly bring myself to use it for all of my daily communications.
>>> So, you mavens of mail... hit me.
>> Thunderbird. It's very easy to transfer all your mailboxes between 
>> and thunderbird since they both use straight text files. 
>> This is no surprise since seems to be the design doc for 
>> Thunderbird.
>> --Adam L. Beberg
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