[FoRK] Re: A bit of religion - Problem of Evil

Zee Roe zero
Thu Jan 5 11:11:18 PST 2006

This thread reminds me of a discussion I had with my brother a while back,
which was rather depressing.

His argument was this:

(a) If the concept of a "soul," or some other sort of supernatural essence
attached to us is an incorrect one, and
(b) We are defined entirely by genetics and mutations and such at birth,
(c) The universe works the way it does in a logically consistent fashion
(even if we don't remotely understand the processes by which it does
this), then:
(d) Free will does not exist -- between a "predictable" environment and
genetic makeup, how one will react to any event is entirely ordained based
on genetics and environment.

(After typing this I suppose the genetics bit is unnecessary, as it is
implied by an ordered universe, but that's how the argument went. :) )

On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Corinna wrote:

> "Kevin Elliott" <k-elliott at wiu.edu> wrote in message
> > Free Will.
> The Christian solution to the problem of evil seems self-contradictory. Has
> God willingly limited himself (and so is effectively no longer omni*) by
> having the requirement that people have free will? .. kind of like a writer
> willingly limits themselves when they write a haiku..
> It seems to me a purely logical contradiction -- all the omni* qualities
> cannot exist at the same time, in the same being, given the world that we
> live in.
> -Corinna
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