[FoRK] Re: Web development teams for hire? (Albert S.)

Albert Scherbinsky < albert at softwarepress.com > on > Sun Mar 26 08:27:00 PST 2006

I'm not saying you can't still make a decent living with a degree in Computer Science. What I am saying is that you can make a better living doing other things. I am also saying that the real earning power of a Computer Science degree isn't what it used to be, and likely won't be what it is today in the future. You just can't compete with someone with a Computer Science degree in India willing to work for a third of what you expect here.
My personal opinion is that there is only one good reason to get a Computer Science degree in North America or Europe and that is because you get a kick out of messing with computers. That's why I got one in the first place, and why I still get a kick out of programming and just tooling around with computers.
I've had similar thoughts about patents, especially after the RIMM case.  I also have some ideas which I think are truly worthy of patents, however to monetize a patent you have to be prepared to endure years of legal rangling without compensation. That's just not something I'm prepared to do. The world will have to wait till someone else thinks of the same thing.
The nice thing about knowing your way around the financial markets is that you can change with the tides. The dot com tide comes in you jump on, the dot com tide goes out, you get off. The commodity tide comes in, you get on. The commodity tide goes out, you get off. Repeat as necessary. I didn't know a darn thing about copper mining or oil discovery and exploration before investing in them. I know a lot more now. Not enough to become a rough neck working a drilling rig, but enough to make money on the financial markets.
----- Original Message ----
From: Damien Morton <fork at bitfurnace.com>
To: Albert S. <albert at softwarepress.com>; fork at xent.com
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:55:41 AM
Subject: Re: [FoRK] Re: Web development teams for hire? (Albert S.)

Well, I don't really see this as a reason not to study Comp Sci. Plenty 
of people make very good livings doing computer stuff that has little or 
nothing to do with the internet at large.

The fact that a lot of the work has been done is also a good thing - it 
frees up minds to consider problems other than building the Nth bulletin 
board or shopping cart in ASP/PHP/Perl/Python/Ruby/whatever. There are 
much more satisfying and productive ways to earn a living than that.

Good luck with the investing. You'd like to work for an investment back 

Im thinking of writing myself a patent generator, which systematically 
combines primitive concepts together, such as 'buy' and 'now', or 
'britney' and 'spears', generating the required patent legalese and 
submitting automatically to the patent office. Once I get that done, all 
I will have to do is sit back and let the money roll in. Or something.

> Yes, the existence of so many pre-existing open source/and service based solutions is why I suspect a lot of custom shops have gone out of business. If you can, its likely best to base your solution on a pre-existing framework. These factors, along with cheap Chindia labor is why a lot of folks have left the biz. And, also why kids entering post secondary ed. are chosing to enter potentially more lucrative carrier paths like the traditional Doctor/Lawyer/Investment Banker gravy trains.  I myself have been spending a lot of my time learning to invest and trade on the financial markets. As it turns out, I am managing to scratch out a living doing so, while learning a whole lot. It beats forking out for tuition fees for retraining, and then still not landing a job afterword.
> Cheers,
> Albert
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Damien Morton <fork at bitfurnace.com>
> To: Sebastian Hassinger <shassinger at gmail.com>; fork at xent.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:55:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [FoRK] Re: Web development teams for hire? (Albert S.)
> Hi Sebastian,
> Someone may already have done what you want and are selling it as a 
> service somewhere.
> Theres plenty of pre-packaged stores, and bulletin boards, etc etc. For 
> a very wide range of applications, its done, all you need to do is get a 
> graphic designer to create your look and feel and hand over your credit 
> card on a monthly basis.
> Again, you havent given any details as to what you want done, so its a 
> little hard to give meaningful advice.
>>> From: "Albert S." <albert.scherbinsky at rogers.com>
>>> To: fork at xent.com
>>> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:03:48 -0800 (PST)
>>> Subject: Re: [FoRK] Web development teams for hire?
>>> Sebastian,
>>> I've both built web development teams from the ground up and outsourced work to contractors. An important thing to determine is the general nature of the work to be done so you can find a good fit. For instance, you need to decide on the general architecture first. Ex. Just HTML on the front end or do you need something like Flash too. Is there lots of backend database work or just some Perl scripting. Etc...
>>> Not all web shops can do everything.
>> Agreed, and I definitely have some ideas in that regard - I guess I
>> was thinking that there was some basic approach to take to start to
>> find firms of that type, against which to apply my filter of the size
>> of project, basic approach needed, etc. It's not like there is a
>> yellow pages category that would give me a good starting point...
>> --
>> Sebastian Hassinger
>> shassinger at gmail.com
>> +1.845.893.1377
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