[FoRK] Re: FoRK Digest, Vol 42, Issue 21

Ian Andrew Bell <hello at ianbell.com> on Tue Apr 24 14:32:13 PDT 2007

To suggest that America is a Gun Culture runs deeper than the number  
and caliber of weapons in circulation.  America has fostered a  
society which places extraordinary value on vengeance, vigilantism,  
entitlement, and self-righteousness.  This is reinforced in the way  
it looks upon its own history, its popular cultural artifacts such as  
movies, and the imbalances which are perpetuated between classes  
contrasted with omnipresent avarice and the singular pursuit of  
wealth.  If guns are the fuel and our Ape-ism is the oxygen, then  
America's unique set of societal values provides the perfect touchstone.

To say that America's gun crime and murder rate is disproportionate  
both to the number of firearms and the population of the country is a  
gaping understatement.  The problem runs deeper than monkeys and steel.


On 24-Apr-07, at 11:20 AM, Tom Higgins wrote:

> Think of the right to bear arms almost as the national appendix
> At one time it was of value, a newly won freedom needed to be
> vouchsafed from all tyrants foreign and domestic. The population back
> then hunted and such so that the use of a gun was more ingrained in
> them compared to what was to come. Over time though the fight for
> keeping our freedoms went from imperative to fad to faded. We have
> devolved in intent from having to had fought for our freedoms to
> making excuses why we don't vote, or if we vote why we only vote for
> one of two choices rather than a full spectrum of choices a real
> democracy would have. The conflicts we send out young to die for have
> mostly been for economic or political points rather than keeping our
> freedoms secure, the expectation of this being WWII where the threat
> of a viral global badness was real. Our glorious leader officially
> states he  sends our young to die for other counties to be
> democratic..... while our democracy decays, yea progress.
> So the time when wielding a shotgun to protect the red white and blue
> is long gone, if there is a threat on the essential freedoms it will
> come as a corporate take over, a lobby sponsored bill, "for our own
> good" and will likely be backed , if at all, by fire power created and
> bought by our tax money...irony is good for the diet.
> The real threat, one that I think has already done a shiz load of
> damage, is apathy. You gun nuts go and address apathy with your penis
> extensions and see how that works.
> So there ya go, part of the nation is made to feel like that are REAL
> AMERICANS by arming themselves with straw pea shooters while apathy,
> lobby concerns, political power grabs and the bottom line make them
> look as useful as a glory hole in an elevator.
> Oh yea, and with the guns floating around let the pleebs off each
> other to install even more fear, uncertainty and doubt into the masses
> such they give up0 even more hope or spend their energies of fighting
> that rather than actually vouchsafing our freedoms.
> So yea, appendix bust body dies...how did that work out hanging on to
> that artifact?
> bang bang   have a nice day
> -tomhiggins
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