[FoRK] PubSub 2.0

Jim Whitehead <ejw at soe.ucsc.edu> on Mon May 7 14:15:44 PDT 2007

Two thoughts:

* Isn't this PubSub 3.0 (or 4.0)?
* So, I walk out of my house, turn on my cell phone, and I'm  
immediately hit with event-driven porn spam?

- Jim

On May 6, 2007, at 1:53 PM, J. Andrew Rogers wrote:

> On May 6, 2007, at 1:07 PM, Ian Andrew Bell wrote:
>> I'm confused.  I don't understand how (below) is related to  
>> PubSub, so there must be some aspect of the company's goals that  
>> my postmortem forensic analysis might be missing.
>> I have noticed that the company is getting raw Tsunami alerting  
>> data from the USGS <ens at usgs.gov>.   I assume that they had built  
>> some tools of some sort to cluster/aggregate news and reporting  
>> data after the Indonesian Tsunami.
> Sorry, it kind of went off on an unrelated thread.
> After the tsunamis the governments got hot for subscription-driven  
> event notification in a geospatial context, primarily for disasters  
> but now they want to take it much further and apply such a  
> framework to all manner of thing that may have nothing to do with  
> disasters per se.  Child abductions are among the very first things  
> they want to do this with, for example.  Fox News will be all over  
> this (*rolls eyes*).  The basic model looks like this:
> The individual subscribes to any number of specific event feeds  
> with a geospatial context, voluntarily or involuntarily depending  
> on the feed and the government.  Some of these feeds are for very  
> specific types of events, other ones are descriptive and abstract.   
> As the individual travels around, the events they see are the  
> intersection of their subscription profile with the event, and  
> their geospatial location with the geospatial area of the event as  
> defined in the feed.  The problem is scaling up the ability to  
> determine if an individuals subscription and event intersect in  
> near real-time, and this needs to have a significant amount of  
> centralization as a practical matter and political control along  
> the usual boundaries is a big issue.  Both the events *and* the  
> subscriptions will be floating around in space constantly, and this  
> needs to be sorted out if they are going to use it for anything  
> remotely resembling all they want to use it for.  There is a full  
> expectation that the private sector will rapidly find uses for it  
> too, for good or ill, piggybacking on the government mandated  
> interfaces.
> Do not worry about signing up for this service, it will be  
> mandatorily built in to your cell service at a minimum.
> Cheers,
> J. Andrew Rogers
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