[FoRK] Is Balkanization really a problem?
<lionkimbro at gmail.com> on
Tue May 29 13:40:01 PDT 2007
On 5/29/07, Kevin Elliott <K-Elliott at wiu.edu> wrote:
> At 9:41 -0700 on 5/29/07, Lion Kimbro wrote:
> > I'm trying to reconcile how Pirates of the Caribbean is the most
> > popular movie, while our politics run directly opposite.
> I'll take a stab- people like movies with lots of funny lines and
> sword swinging fun. They don't care and probably didn't even notice.
> But that's just a guess...
I agree that people (A) don't care, and (B) don't notice.
That does not mean that a movie does not signify or "do anything."
Movies make language and ideas, and people in plain language
justify arguments and cite movies as reference.
Of course, they don't *call* them references and footnotes, but
taken essentially, it's exactly what happens.
"Well, if you were in Star Wars, you'd be on the side of the
I've seen this argument carry weight before, and this is not uncommon.
I don't think people can really enthusiastically enjoy a movie
that has an underlying philosophy that runs against the grain
of their pre-existing thinking. Not unless it argues it's point,
and appeals to what the people are already open minded to.
In a social group of people, there are people with different
degrees of sensitivity to underlying messages. Those with
more sensitivity start to say, "It's a bad movie," and it has
influence over individual enjoyment of the film.
That's my take.
> "Yo Ho Ho... A pirates life for me!!"
> Out of curiosity- what is the politics of Pirates of the Caribbean?
So, the nice thing about movies is that they can communicate
incredibly complicated situations and ideas, with far less confusion
But if I were to say there was a politics to Pirates, (which there
isn't,) I'd say it is some variant of Libertarianism in the original
Anarchist tradition (freedom from State & Corporation, rather
than just freedom from State, the modern form.)
It has more to do with human values and trade and ideals and
ideas, than it has to do with "Hey stupid kids, get off my lawn;
It's my property!"
But it's distinctly about capital-L Liberty and capital-F Freedom.
I think they said those exact words a few times.
The latest movie begins (very beginning) with the suspension
of right to assembly, habeus corpus, and so on, by the East
India Trading Company with state support.
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