[FoRK] Re: An armed society... (freakin' Canada.)
<lionkimbro at gmail.com> on
Mon Sep 17 11:45:10 PDT 2007
Sympathizing with Ian, (wealth distribution IS a problem,
in my book,) and agreeing substantially with Jeff Bone,
I want to chip in:
* The problems of racism, sexism, classism, nationalism,
economy, environment, government, and a host of other problems, ...
* ...are so vast, so distributed, so inter-connected, that
no single inquiry or plan can possibly strike all elements.
* Rather, only a global mass movement,...
(not a single relief-aid effort, community building exercise,
or even community-corporate-government cooperation ...)
... has the power
to resolve our inter-connected problems.
* This means precisely the opposite of all people everywhere
thinking the same way, and getting on the same page.
* It is *BECAUSE* the problems are distributed and web-like,
that the answers and response must be distributed and web-like.
* So what does this mean?
* Swear allegience to Life, more complicated & interwoven
& enormous than any individual's brain can wrap their
theories or heart around, ...
* ...and then get connected with efforts to work on or resolve
things in the various spheres you can help with.
This is what I have come up with, to date.
On 9/15/07, Jeff Bone <jbone at place.org> wrote:
> On Sep 15, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Ian Andrew Bell wrote:
> > I'm not anti-American. My very best friend is an American (albeit,
> > living in Brussels). I lived there for a tumultuous four years.
> > What I am attempting to alert readers to is the accelerating
> > decline of American (and American-style) civilization, the blame
> > for which can be laid largely at the feet of America's wealthy and
> > greedy.
> No Ian, I'm going to call shenanigans on you here. The "wealthy and
> the greedy" aren't popping caps in each uda's ass every other day,
> for the most part, apropos your little pot shot at guns.
> Look, you're right that we have a problem. Almost every other part
> of your thesis is wrong or incoherent, though.
> Those who have achieved wealth, and those who want things, are always
> too-easy scapegoats. You need to dig deeper than that, though.
> If I had the answer, I'd be busy fixing things. But I don't, and you
> don't, and I'm not sure that anybody's even formulated the problem
> clearly enough to really address. America's sick --- and we can't
> even identify the disease that's killing us. It's more like a
> syndrome, a collection of co-factors and related, cascading and self-
> reinforcing failures.
> And don't think Canada --- or any country, for that matter --- is
> long-term immune.
> And while we're at it, get over being "mad" at America. If anybody's
> got a right to be "mad" at America --- it's Americans, dammit!
> Snooty Canadians committing category error don't do anything to
> *help* the situation. ;-)
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